# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 175
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3481 "2022-10-01T16:44:30Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > Was the DoJ waiting to file the full appeal until they saw the ruling on the classified documents? I think this is true. They crafted their original appeal very narrowly on issues they knew the Eleventh would have a very hard time going against well-established case law. Plus it was the most urgent stuff, to do with protecting highly classified material. In their ruling on the above, the 3-member panel, 2 of whom were Trump-appointed judges, went far out of their way to telegraph their thinking on the whole matter to DOJ. So even if the worst situation imaginable arises from DOJ’s filing the whole appeal, meaning 3 different Trump-appointed judges sit on this appeal and do crazy things, DOJ can simply appeal to the entire Eleventh en banc, and they should prevail. (6 Trump judges, 5 other-appointed judges, but at least 2 of the Trump-appointed have already indicated their support for DOJ’s position.) The only somewhat scary proposition is what the SCOTUS will do when Trump inevitably appeals to them. Even if they ultimately rule as the Eleventh presumably will, they have the power to delay the ruling for… well, a really long time. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3482 "2022-10-01T17:34:56Z")
This article raises interesting points on whether past presidents _should_ have access to the highest level of currently classified information. Or if this case may change that. I cannot say whether this article is fully accurate, and I do not want to hijack this discussion. Still, I post it for those interested. > **[Why Do Former Presidents Have Access to Classified Information?](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/presidential-records-act-classified-trump-mar-a-lago/671622/)** > > The current laws and norms are badly in need of reform. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3483 "2022-10-01T17:41:06Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > Is it really that cut and dry? If so, why does “expedited” mean more than a month before the last brief before oral arguments is filed? I know the wheels turn slowly but does the court really have more pressing cases to deal with? Think of it this way. Presume the court already has a full docket. Why does this case - or any other specific case - take priority such that it should “jump the line” - potentially causing delay in all of the other cases? And how much time do you think the parties ought to take to draft something, or the court to review and decide? If this is important enough that it got to be expedited, then I suggest it is important enough that everyone involved ought to take SOME time to express their position well. Not saying TFG’s team’s submissions suggest any careful deliberation… In my long experience in federal courts, 5 business days is a bout the shortest anything gets done in terms of pleading. Heck, 10 days is so short there is a rule on how to count up to 10. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3484 "2022-10-01T18:31:42Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Think of it this way. Presume the court already has a full docket. Why does this case - or any other specific case - take priority such that it should “jump the line” - potentially causing delay in all of the other cases? Especially since the 11th Circuit already dealt with the major issue on a really, really expedited basis, the issue of classified/national security docs. Now that issue is out of the way, the urgency for the rest goes done a fair bit. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3485 "2022-10-01T18:55:17Z")
Finally (appealing jurisdiction)! Holy hell! Of course the classified documents were the most important and I’m so glad the 11th slapped down Loose Cannon’s ridiculous ruling on that. But somebody needs to pull the rest of the case out of that biased hack’s hands. What is in it for her? I’ve _tried_ to think that maybe she just wanted everyone to see that T was not being railroaded, but that’s hard to believe. She’s totally on Team Cheeto. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3486 "2022-10-01T23:00:37Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > What is in it for her? /spitballin/ Eventually getting on the Supreme Court, where she’ll be at home? /spitballin/ ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3487 "2022-10-02T13:49:48Z")
There doesn’t seen to be an air of urgency in finding out where the documents are that are missing from their folders. Does CFSG have to actually be on trial before they can deign to ask him about them? I know there’s a good reason why the criminal can’t be interrogated like anybody else, but these are supposedly dangerous documents that are unaccounted for, and he’s the most likely to have an idea. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3488 "2022-10-02T13:53:22Z")
I can only hope that the US government is aware of exactly which, if any, documents are unaccounted for. If there is no way for the government to be aware of this, then the US government keeps fewer controls over classified information than my manufacturing job does over drill bits issued from the tool crib. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3489 "2022-10-02T13:53:40Z")
There’s no reason to think that there are any documents “missing from folders”. Search by my username for my explanation. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3490 "2022-10-02T13:54:43Z")
Yes, in many cases the government keeps better control over screwdrivers than classified documents. This is a true statement. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3491 "2022-10-02T20:52:48Z")
Why does this not surprise me… > **[Trump staffers not returning White House records, National Archives says](https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-staffers-not-returning-white-house-records-national-archives-says-2022-10-02/)** > > Former President Donald Trump's administration has not turned over all presidential records and the National Archives will consult with the Justice Department on whether to move to get them back, the agency has told Congress. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3492 "2022-10-02T21:01:15Z")
Yeah, that headline should be: Naturally, Trump staffers not returning White House evidence. I mean records. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3493 "2022-10-03T06:34:57Z")
You do have to cut them some slack. IIRC, they were pretty busy stealing furnishings from their offices as they left. I seen to recall busts and fancy lamps were popular. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3494 "2022-10-04T18:17:23Z")
There are unconfirmed reports that the missing call logs from Jan 6 may have been among the documents seized at Mara Lago. > **[Trump's missing Jan 6th call logs are reported as being in the seized...](https://boingboing.net/2022/10/04/trumps-missing-jan-6th-call-logs-are-reported-as-being-in-the-seized-evidence-from-mar-a-lago.html)** > > It would appear that the 7-hour gap in Trump’s call logs during the January 6th Moron’s Rebellion has been found in the seized evidence found at Mar-a-Lago. Here is the full document. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3495 "2022-10-04T19:23:52Z")
This could be interesting. I think a lot of people would like to see those, I know I would. I not sure I understand what they mean by privileged here. Personal? Should be with NARA? Classified? Which court, the Special Master or the Trump-appointed judge? Sorry, I’m blanking on her name. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3496 "2022-10-04T19:27:19Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Sorry, I’m blanking on her name. U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon. Does anyone know if she has any children? ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3497 "2022-10-04T19:43:09Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon. Thanks. Wiki says she has two kids, no names tho. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3498 "2022-10-04T19:48:50Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Wiki says she has two kids, no names tho. If either one is a boy, then they’d be a son of a gun. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3499 "2022-10-04T19:49:40Z")
Trump appeals 11th circuit ruling to the Supreme Court. > Filing here: [https://t.co/myrddBm62G](https://t.co/myrddBm62G) ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/3500 "2022-10-04T19:54:02Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > If either one is a boy, then they’d be a son of a gun. You should be ashamed of yourself. > [@JohnT](#): > > Trump appeals 11th circuit ruling to the Supreme Court. I think we all knew that was coming. You know that Chinese saying/curse about living in interesting times? Well, we are definitely there now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=174) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=176)