# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/361 "2022-08-10T21:32:04Z")
Or it’s about John Eastman, and sending out copies of false elector certificates to people around the country. Bobb is far too interested in making sure everyone knows what the FBI was looking for, to be a reliable source for telling us what the FBI was looking for. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/362 "2022-08-10T21:35:52Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > He probably thought all those tchotchkes various heads of state gave the president were his personally to keep. Perhaps some of those tchotchkes were bugged, especially the ones given to TFG by a Mr Putin, a Mr Xi, and a Mr Un. That may present another type of security risk. He probably thought they were just nice gifts. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/363 "2022-08-10T21:38:05Z")
I do not consider him a unbiased source, just putting it in as a single stated detail in the sea of suspicions. We’re chewing on very little right now, and so even a gristly nugget of information is valuable, but should be taken with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/364 "2022-08-10T21:39:11Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > and a Mr Un. Mr Kim you mean. Jong-Un is his given name. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/365 "2022-08-10T21:41:00Z")
Reached for comment, TFG was quoted as saying “I’m alright. Don’t nobody worry 'bout me.” He then posed the following – presumably rhetorical – question: “You got to gimme a fight ? Why don’t you just let me be?” ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/366 "2022-08-10T21:42:44Z")
Yeah I had a feeling that was the case right after I posted that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/367 "2022-08-10T23:57:25Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > so even a gristly nugget of information is valuable, but should be taken with a grain of salt. mmmmmmm Salted gristly nuggets… mmmmmmm ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/368 "2022-08-10T23:59:25Z")
The name of the judge who approved the warrant has gotten out. Checking news for that, I found: > **[Judge who approved FBI’s Mar-a-Lago search represented clients linked to...](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/judge-mar-a-lago-epstein-00050739)** > > Bruce Reinhart worked as a federal prosecutor until Jan. 1, 2008, when a day later he became a defense attorney representing employees of Epstein. In proper Florida fashion, the guy worked with Pam Bondi 🤨 and also worked to defend some of the employees of Jeffrey Epstein who (as I understand it) were under suspicion for aiding Epstein 😱 ? So that’s a big…youch. On the up-side, he’s donated to both political parties. In other news: > **[Federal Magistrate Judge Orders DOJ to Respond to Media and Non-Profit...](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-magistrate-judge-orders-doj-to-respond-to-media-and-non-profit-requests-to-unseal-trump-search-warrant/)** > > "Trump’s team can release the search warrant and the inventory of seized items at any time," a former federal prosecutor noted. He recommended to the DOJ that they release the warrant to the general public. Though again, as I read it, that’s not binding on them and they probably won’t. Team Trump is refusing to release their version, all while “telling us” what they say is in it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/369 "2022-08-11T00:02:53Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I just heard that it’s reported that it was documents _and_ gifts in the boxes they took yesterday. He probably thought all those tchotchkes various heads of state gave the president were his personally to keep. “Since I am the _real_ President, I felt it was my duty to keep certain items safe from those thieving pretenders currently occupying the White House.” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/370 "2022-08-11T00:12:40Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > In proper Florida fashion, the guy worked with Pam Bondi 🤨 and also worked to defend some of the employees of Jeffrey Epstein who (as I understand it) were under suspicion for aiding Epstein 😱 ? So that’s a big…youch. I believe that in America, even the most heinous of offenders are entitled to a good defense attorney. Don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/371 "2022-08-11T00:22:01Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > He recommended to the DOJ that they release the warrant to the general public. I don’t think that this is correct. He ordered the DOJ to respond to the request, didn’t say they need to comply. Basically he’s saying that these people want have it unsealed, explain to me why you want it sealed and I’ll decide who’s right. Based on the article you linked to most people seem to think that in the end he will side with the DOJ (and paradoxically Trump, who presumably also wants them sealed, or else he would simply release them himself). ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/372 "2022-08-11T00:24:15Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > The only thing planted at a Trump property was Ivana. 🏆 Ordinarily I’d say, “Too soon,” but this is Donny Two-scoops we’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/373 "2022-08-11T00:43:55Z")
The problem is, none of them are alright. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/hqYsuX1Cewo/maxresdefault.jpg "Kenny Loggins - I'm Alright (1980 Caddyshack Soundtrack)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqYsuX1Cewo) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/374 "2022-08-11T00:47:21Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > I believe that in America, even the most heinous of offenders are entitled to a good defense attorney. Don’t you? Sure, but in terms of avoiding a Deep State Conspiracy undercurrent, you could only go worse by connecting the guy to George Soros. I’m sure that, in reality, he’s just any other person and a fairly reasonable judge. But I’d strongly prefer that he was a little less interesting. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/375 "2022-08-11T00:50:29Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > I believe that in America, even the most heinous of offenders are entitled to a good defense attorney. Don’t you? - I think the firm that’s defending Alex Jones will be available soon. N/M, you said _good_. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/376 "2022-08-11T01:02:43Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Team Trump is refusing to release their version, all while “telling us” what they say is in it. Of course, if the DOJ did release the warrant, Team Trump would be having a total public shit fit about how they are VIOLATING TRUMP’S PRIVACY by publicly revealing information about his “personal possessions” and “important papers”. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/377 "2022-08-11T01:13:00Z")
This lines up with what I’ve been thinking, that the National Archives had pretty good idea of exactly what documents and other items were missing, they got tired of being jerked around over getting them returned and it was becoming increasingly obvious that Trump had no intention of returning them. So the folks at the archives basically said “Fuck Around and Find Out”, they took the entire list to the FBI and DOJ who then obtained a warrant for the all items on the list, which probably included gift items. I’m not convinced they will pursue charges now that they’ve gotten their stuff back. But maybe they will. It would be extra cool if they just charged him with straight up Grand Larceny instead of violations of the Presidential Record Act, though. It won’t happen, but it would be awesome. And I’m pretty sure that’s what would’ve happened if I took a box of stuff from the White House and shipped it to myself. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/378 "2022-08-11T01:19:16Z")
_ **FBI raids home of Epstein-linked Clinton donor** _ ---
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_ **Ex-wife buried on property.** _ ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/380 "2022-08-11T01:28:02Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > So the folks at the archives basically said “Fuck Around and Find Out”, they took the entire list to the FBI and DOJ who then obtained a warrant for the all items on the list, which probably included gift items. > > I’m not convinced they will pursue charges now that they’ve gotten their stuff back. I’m fairly sure that this is not what’s going on. 1. If the FBI was just reclaiming documents, I think that they’d be fairly public about it. The optics of issuing a warrant against three leader of half the country is too politically intense to turn into a mystery, when the reality is innocuous. 2. Team Trump wouldn’t be publicizing all of this and trying to set up a story about the FBI planting evidence. If it really was just a PRA grab, then it’s to Trump’s benefit to make it seem like a reasonable and uninteresting affair. “They wanted them. I said, sure, send your guys over.” There would be the hope that this encourages the FBI to keep it at that, and not escalate to prosecutions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=20)