# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 210
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4181 "2022-12-07T23:59:04Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > Was that quote from the WP article? (Which is paywalled for me.) Yahoo News, which was most assuredly pulled from somewhere else. A gift link for you! > **[Items with classified markings found at Trump storage unit in Florida](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/12/07/trump-tower-bedminster-records-search/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjIwMTE5NjA4IiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY3MDQ1NzczOCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY3MTY2NzMzOCwiaWF0IjoxNjcwNDU3NzM4LCJqdGkiOiJkNmYxN2ZkNC1jNjNjLTQ5ZjMtYTQxMi0yZGQ4NWI0MDMyMGYiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vbmF0aW9uLzIwMjIvMTIvMDcvdHJ1bXAtdG93ZXItYmVkbWluc3Rlci1yZWNvcmRzLXNlYXJjaC8ifQ.GhzTV7Y7CYm24Vp2IL6c178-XLqUq77kRKzAWWDw8Qc&itid=gfta)** > > The former president’s lawyers say no classified documents were found at Trump Tower in New York or at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. > That attorney, former Florida solicitor general Christopher Kise, had proposed such a search months earlier. Many of the other lawyers on Trump’s team have rebuffed Kise’s advice, and he has taken a reduced role in the classified documents case while taking a larger role in the New York investigations into the former president, the people said. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4182 "2022-12-08T00:52:03Z")
A few more details on the storage unit, and the GSA’s involvement, from the WaPo article: > [@](#): > > Emails released by the General Services Administration, which assists former presidents during their transition to private life, show that the government agency helped rent the storage unit at a private facility in West Palm Beach on July 21, 2021. The unit was needed to store items that had been held at an office in Northern Virginia used by Trump staffers in the months just after he left office. > > The emails show that the GSA and Trump staffers worked together to arrange to ship several pallets of boxes and other items weighing more than 3,000 pounds from Northern Virginia to the Florida storage unit in September 2021. > > A person familiar with the matter said the storage unit had a mix of boxes, gifts, suits and clothes, among other things. “It was suits and swords and wrestling belts and all sorts of things,” this person said. “To my knowledge, he has never even been to that storage unit. I don’t think anyone in Trump World could tell you what’s in that storage unit.” > > There was no cataloguing of what was put in the storage unit, Trump advisers said — just as there was no cataloguing of what classified documents were taken to a room underneath Mar-a-Lago. If this is accurate, then (a) yes, the GSA was involved, though apparently as a facilitator, (b) it wasn’t at an actual government storage facility, and (c) the documents were mixed in with all matter of other, uncataloged stuff. > **[Items with classified markings found at Trump storage unit in Florida](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/12/07/trump-tower-bedminster-records-search/)** > > The former president’s lawyers say no classified documents were found at Trump Tower in New York or at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4183 "2022-12-08T01:17:31Z")
In other words, the same sloppy, careless trail of detritus from a narcissist who’s never had to tidy up after himself and has always had flunkies (of dubious quality) to see to such crap. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4184 "2022-12-08T01:22:22Z")
The docs were buried in the casket. /s? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4185 "2022-12-08T01:24:46Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The unit was needed to store items that had been held at an office in Northern Virginia used by Trump staffers in the months just after he left office. So, here again - it was ‘after he left office’ from an office used by ‘Trump staffers’. How many more rules are broken in just that sentence? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4186 "2022-12-08T01:30:26Z")
Alternative conspiracy theory of my own invention: Perhaps the documents in question were in Trump’s personal possession in Mara largo or Trump tower or wherever. The FBI knows they are missing and Trump knows the FBI knows so he has to get them back. But he can’t actually just walk up and hand them back because he will get in even more trouble for knowingly holding on to them. So he hires a team to “search” the GSE storage facility and “find” the documents there. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4187 "2022-12-08T01:30:59Z")
Good one! ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4188 "2022-12-08T02:04:27Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > The docs were buried in the casket. /s? Way back in 1932, in Ellery Queen’s _The Greek Coffin Mystery,_ he deduces that the missing will must be in a just buried coffin. When they disinter the coffin the will isn’t there: but another body is. Things get complicated after that. As a plot, an oldie but goodie. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4189 "2022-12-08T02:37:47Z")
> [@someone](#): > > “It was suits and swords and wrestling belts and all sorts of things,” this person said. Swords and wrestling belts? Cosplay gifts from MAGAs? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4190 "2022-12-08T02:45:40Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Alternative conspiracy theory of my own invention: You might be onto something here. It has the ring of truthiness about it. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4191 "2022-12-08T02:51:56Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > > [@someone](#): > > > > “It was suits and swords and wrestling belts and all sorts of things,” this person said. > > Swords and wrestling belts? Cosplay gifts from MAGAs? I wondered about that, too. And why would Trumpie have “suits” in a storage shed? Maybe they were suits of armor, to go with the swords. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4192 "2022-12-08T03:08:53Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I wondered about that, too. And why would Trumpie have “suits” in a storage shed? Maybe they were suits of armor, to go with the swords. My WAG is that the ‘suits’ are pro-wrestler’s costumes. It would make sense with the belts (and maybe the swords?). ---
**Author:** ![GWF\_Hefel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/898d66/32.png) [@GWF\_Hefel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GWF_Hefel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4193 "2022-12-08T03:12:12Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > Attorneys for **Donald Trump** discovered two classified items… Haven’t attorneys for Trump already sworn that there are no classified documents in Trump’s possession (before the FBI search)? This makes my already low opinion of Mr. Garland sink even lower. He’s the worst kind of lawyer–he’s a Washington lawyer. Two minutes after the FBI found the first stash, Garland should have had more warrants to search everything associated with Trump including his underwear. I can hardly wait to read his lame excuse in his autobiography (inappropriate, inopportune, impossible, impolite?) I really feel sorry for the teams of people trying to discern what classified information has been compromised when. What this entire farce needs about now is a Tony Ulasewicz type character to show up for comic relief. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4194 "2022-12-08T03:26:25Z")
The swords I don’t know about, but Trump has had a working relationship in various forms with the WWE dating back to the late '80s. He actually appeared on a show as late as 2006 or 2007 I believe. That’s most likely where the belt came from. Apologies if this is considered a hijack. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4195 "2022-12-08T03:44:54Z")
> [@GWF\_Hefel](#): > > Haven’t attorneys for Trump already sworn that there are no classified documents in Trump’s possession (before the FBI search)? Not the same attorneys. The different inhabitants of Trump World all have different stories. The Master of Them All, Trump himself, tells all the different stories simultaneously, sometimes even achieving the remarkable feat of actually contradicting himself in the same sentence. His sycophants are fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4196 "2022-12-08T04:01:05Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > My WAG is that the ‘suits’ are pro-wrestler’s costumes. It would make sense with the belts (and maybe the swords?). There was a wrestler called the Gothic Knight, some years ago. He was a champion in his promotion, and had the heavyweight belt for quite some time; and while his publicity photos showed him wielding a sword, that object never made it into the ring. Instead, his squire (his valet) would be holding on to it well away from the ring. So it’s possible. If there was one such wrestler, there might have been others, after all. And Trump was at Wrestlemania 23 in 2007. So who knows? Maybe it’s not as much of a WAG as it seems. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4197 "2022-12-08T05:09:27Z")
> [@simster](#): > > you’re arguing against a ‘I think’ comment that simply stated the posters thought that Cannon told the Trump team what to ask for - no where did the person making that comment provide evidence that it _actually_ happened. Further - saying Cannon did, in fact, give the idea to the trump team and even provided the full writeup, why would it not still appear as it does in the record (as having been filed by the Trump team).? I believe what someone may have been referring to is that Judge Cannon told Trump’s law-talkin’ guys that they needed to make an argument for why she should have any jurisdiction in the case at all, and even after they didn’t even make any argument after having been asked to, she granted “equitable jurisdiction” anyway, making arguments on their behalf. Details here, as I understand, are that federal courts would not normally be the place to bring a suit like he was doing, but there are conditions for an exception that would allow her to take the case. Here’s a cite: [Prosecutors Ask Eleventh Circuit To Sh\*tcan Judge Cannon's Special Master Order For Being ... Total Sh\*t - Above the Law](https://abovethelaw.com/2022/10/prosecutors-ask-eleventh-circuit-to-shtcan-judge-cannons-special-master-order-for-being-total-sht/) ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4198 "2022-12-08T05:18:57Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > So it’s possible. If there was one such wrestler, there might have been others, after all. And Trump was at Wrestlemania 23 in 2007. So who knows? Maybe it’s not as much of a WAG as it seems. Right and if memory serves wrestlemania’s four and five, wish were held in 88 and 89, happened at the Trump plaza? I want to say that’s correct I think it was an Atlantic City New Jersey. About the sword weirdly enough there is a current wrestler who does carry a big Scottish Claymore to the ring. Its certainly not unheard of. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4199 "2022-12-08T07:13:09Z")
> [@GWF\_Hefel](#): > > Garland should have had more warrants to search everything associated with Trump including his underwear. I believe it was explained earlier in this thread that you cannot legally do that. You need some semblance of evidence that there may something at a specific site to get a warrant. You cannot go on a fishing expedition, hitting every place Trump owns (including his underwear), just because he is an untrustworthy bastard who may have stashed documents hither and yon. The latter is certainly true, but it isn’t enough. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4200 "2022-12-08T07:20:49Z")
The swords are probably from Saudi Arabia, or other foreign powers. The article said that the storage unit had “gifts”. > **[Saudi Arabia gave Donald Trump 83 gifts including swords, daggers and artwork...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/saudi-arabia-donald-trump-83-gifts-us-president-portrait-meeting-swords-daggers-a7930496.html)** > > Presents to the President include two robes lined with fur - one from a cheetah and the other from a rare white tiger Remember that in many parts of the world it’s common to give a sword as a gift from one powerful person to another. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=209) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=211)