# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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Bodenschwelle?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@Akaj](#):
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> But I bet there’s plenty of cash to be made – in speaker’s fees and other, even less savory arrangements – by milking the reputation gained by being on Trump’s team.

Surely the grift from the Trumpistas is starting to run dry? I mean, there is only so much you can squeeze out of these losers, and the grifter/griftee ratio is getting rather large…

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4303 "2022-12-12T22:20:40Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Bodenschwelle?

That’s just “speed bump.” [German nouns](https://www.fluentu.com/blog/german/weird-german-words-vocabulary/) have the ability to capture such complex ideas, there must be one for a throwing-under-the-bus victim. Or someone could make one up.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Surely the grift from the Trumpistas is starting to run dry? I mean, there is only so much you can squeeze out of these losers, and the grifter/griftee ratio is getting rather large…

Like any pyramid scam, it will collapse eventually. But meanwhile, I bet a thrown-under-the-bus Trump lawyer still carries a lot of sway with (for instance) MAGAt-run businesses who want to flout state, local or EPA restrictions (or evade penalties for said flouting).

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4304 "2022-12-12T22:22:21Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> MAGAt-run businesses who want to flout state, local or EPA restrictions (or evade penalties for said flouting).

Until the MAGAt run business loses in court and is assessed fines and penalties and has their assets seized, and the lawyer is sanctioned and disbarred.  
Then all the fun stops.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4305 "2022-12-12T22:30:34Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> That’s just “speed bump.” [German nouns](https://www.fluentu.com/blog/german/weird-german-words-vocabulary/) have the ability to capture such complex ideas, there must be one for a throwing-under-the-bus victim. Or someone could make one up.

Debusstration. Kind of like defenestration. Altho I do like Bodenschwelle.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4306 "2022-12-12T22:48:42Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> [German nouns](https://www.fluentu.com/blog/german/weird-german-words-vocabulary/) have the ability to capture such complex ideas, there must be one for a throwing-under-the-bus victim.

I agree. Any language that can turn “streetcar stop” into “strassenbahnhaltestelle” can come up with something for “thrown under a bus.” My high German just doesn’t have that vocabulary any more, I’m afraid. The other construct I could remember is “wolfsfutter.” Although that might sound better in Russian.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4307 "2022-12-12T22:58:40Z")

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Hey, you guys gave me a challenge to come up with the perfect German word, but all I can offer is “Unterdenbusschmeissopfer”. I think this word isn’t funny, but maybe you like it. Of course I made it up.

Wolfsfutter is not bad, either.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4308 "2022-12-12T23:05:48Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> The other construct I could remember is “wolfsfutter.”

I think you’re on the right track. How about “Kuhfängerfutter”.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Unterdenbusschmeissopfer

At first glance I thought I saw “Scheisse” in there. Oops! You came up with a pretty cool word. I think you’re top of the list right now.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4310 "2022-12-12T23:08:37Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Unterdenbusschmeissopfer

Ich mag das!

> [@Pleonast](#):
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> How about “Kuhfängerfutter”.

Cow catcher fodder? Might be the wrong century.

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Moderating:

My informal limit for thread hijacks is around 10 posts. That number is already exceeded. Drop this discussion in this thread, please.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4312 "2022-12-12T23:14:29Z")

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Awww.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
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Here’s some news:

> <https://twitter.com/duty2warn/status/1602396374389362688>

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4314 "2022-12-13T05:39:09Z")

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So does that mean that Jack is looking seriously at the Georgia phone call, as well as the Jan 6 insurrection and the NARA Lago documents theft?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4315 "2022-12-13T08:21:09Z")

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This is a guy who has made a career of going after very high level politicians on corruption charges. I think he’s going to lump together everything he can to show what a cesspool that the Hangry Hangry Hippo was wallowing around in.

[![](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Rw8AAOSwB4Bi3Dg5/s-l1600.jpg) ](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Rw8AAOSwB4Bi3Dg5/s-l1600.jpg)

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Your choice of the _orange_ hippo is duly noted.

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That is an insult to all of hippodom and I object most vociferously.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4318 "2022-12-13T11:52:05Z")

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But there are so many similarities. Both large, dangerous (but sometimes not seen as such) and both throw sh\*t around to mark their territory.

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I believe this territory marking has already been mentioned, probably in the _Interesting Random Fact_ thread, but it bears repeating [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jXMeo4a4k).

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> [German nouns](https://www.fluentu.com/blog/german/weird-german-words-vocabulary/) have the ability to capture such complex ideas, there must be one for a throwing-under-the-bus victim.

Angeschwärzte? Verratene? Several words mean “denounced/calumniated”, but I’m not sure any carry quite the same implied force of placing the blame for one’s own actions on an underling who might at worst have just been doing what you told them to do.

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