# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 220
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4381 "2023-01-07T03:42:16Z")
Bigly unfair. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4382 "2023-01-09T23:10:08Z")
5 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Classified Documents Found in Biden Private Office in November 2022 (January 9, 2023)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classified-documents-found-in-biden-private-office-in-november-2022-january-9-2023/977945/2) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4383 "2023-01-15T04:43:09Z")
> [@Classified Documents Found in Biden Private Office in November 2022 (January 9, 2023)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classified-documents-found-in-biden-private-office-in-november-2022-january-9-2023/977945/167): > > Yes, that statement was a personal opinion. This discussion belongs in this thread, so I’ll respond here. Your personal opinion appears to be based on little of the currently known evidence about what Trump had/has at Mar-a-Lago. This might aid your understanding: > **[Government Classification and the Mar-a-Lago Documents](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/government-classification-and-mar-lago-documents)** > > Understanding how the classification system works is critical to understanding Trump’s culpability — legal and otherwise. Hope it helps. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4384 "2023-01-19T21:32:09Z")
Here’s an article discussing the options for DOJ in prosecuting Trump with the added wrinkle of Biden’s documents now coming to light. They see three options: 1. No prosecution, with the reasoning being that despite the differences in the case, the DOJ now has no way to prosecute Trump but not Biden without appearing political. 2. Move forward with the “slam dunk” prosecution of Trump on possession of classified materials and obstruction of justice. 3. Prosecute him only for obstruction of justice - not quite the slam dunk that the possession of documents count is, but it avoids some of the “but Biden did it too!” complaints while still holding Trump accountable for something. Sure, the base will see politics no matter what happens, so it is tempting to just go for it all. But I can see the appeal of option 3 when you consider the middle. > **[The DOJ’s Only Good Option in Its Mar-a-Lago Case](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/01/trump-biden-classified-documents-doj-obstruction.html)** > > The Justice Department is in a bind now. But there’s a way out. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4385 "2023-01-19T21:34:54Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Prosecute him only for obstruction of justice - not quite the slam dunk that the possession of documents count is, but it avoids some of the “but Biden did it too!” complaints while still holding Trump accountable for something. Well, it really is the most offensive part of the fiasco. Having the documents is one thing, lying and refusing to return them quite another. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4386 "2023-01-19T21:35:08Z")
I’ve got a piece of monopoly money that says he’s never charged in the documents theft. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4387 "2023-01-19T21:50:54Z")
Seems obvious to me - go forward and prosecute Trump. Prosecute Biden too if there’s any intentional wrongdoing. Who cares if Republicans cry foul? They will do so no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4388 "2023-01-19T21:53:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Seems obvious to me - go forward and prosecute Trump. Prosecute Biden too if there’s any intentional wrongdoing. Honestly, I feel the same way, very strongly. “Don’t prosecute Trump because it might mean Biden would need to be prosecuted.” I say, if Biden needs to be prosecuted, do it. I supported him and still do, I voted for him enthusiastically. But if he did something wrong and criminal, then he should face justice, the same as anyone else. Two wrongs don’t make a right, they’re just twice as wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4389 "2023-01-19T21:57:28Z")
Fiat justitia et pereat mundus! A well honed principle. (Translation in case it is needed: Let justice be done even if the world goes to Hell!) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4390 "2023-01-19T22:01:27Z")
“That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.” (P.C. Hodgell) ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4391 "2023-01-19T22:08:10Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Seems obvious to me - go forward and prosecute Trump. Prosecute Biden too if there’s any intentional wrongdoing. Who cares if Republicans cry foul? They will do so no matter what. Seems Garland is very sensitive to foul cries. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4392 "2023-01-19T22:14:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Seems obvious to me - go forward and prosecute Trump. Prosecute Biden too if there’s any intentional wrongdoing. Who cares if Republicans cry foul? They will do so no matter what. This very much so. Especially because, as currently constituted, the Republican party will go on to investigate and prosecute Biden for document possession as soon as they have a chance, and ignore Trump’s actions. Because they have taught their base the lesson “It’s not a crime if our side does it.” Zero concerns would be given at the hypocrisy, so might as well take the future bitter with the sweet of slamming the door on Trump. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4393 "2023-01-19T22:27:34Z")
We don’t know this yet. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4394 "2023-01-20T00:12:55Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I say, if Biden needs to be prosecuted, do it. Seriously. Is anyone saying anything else? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4395 "2023-01-20T00:15:49Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Is anyone saying anything else? Robert Katzberg of _Slate_, in the article we have been responding to, is speculating that the DOJ is holding off on prosecution for fear that it will endanger Biden legally as well. So, my comment and that of others is in response to that speculation. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4396 "2023-01-20T00:20:39Z")
Well, that’s dumb. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4397 "2023-01-20T00:23:50Z")
I can’t argue with you there. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4398 "2023-01-20T00:25:28Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Two wrongs don’t make a right, they’re just twice as wrong. Well, in this case probably 1.001 times as wrong. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4399 "2023-01-20T00:40:27Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Robert Katzberg of _Slate_, in the article we have been responding to, is speculating that the DOJ is holding off on prosecution for fear that it will endanger Biden legally as well. No, that’s not what he’s arguing. He states that the cases are different and has a comment about prosecution of Trump but not Biden being “legally justified.” The argument against indicting Trump for having the documents is that it would create an absolute shitshow because many on the right and middle won’t understand the difference (either ignorantly or purposely). Indicting him for only obstruction makes that a much tougher argument for the Right. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/4400 "2023-01-20T00:48:38Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Indicting him for only obstruction makes that a much tougher argument for the Right. And I think the counterargument is that (a) we should just follow the facts and the law, not what “looks better”; (b) it won’t “look better” anyway, because the way the Right will portray it is not based on a fair presentation or rational analysis of the facts and the law. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=219) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=221)