# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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Fingers crossed that this reporting is accurate. Trump and his whole sideshow circus are supposed to be in my town this weekend for the state GOP conference (Kari Lake, keynote speaker, ugh!). If he gets indicted while he’s here… delicious.

I haven’t seen this news about Mark Meadows show up anywhere else, either. Just that he spoke to the grand jury. And only news about Big Doofus this evening is that he has been notified that he’s a target in the documents investigation. Shocker!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5002 "2023-06-07T23:37:39Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> I have no idea how reliable the Independent is on this kind of major American political news.

They’re mixed:

> **[The Independent UK - Bias and Credibility](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-independent/)**
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> LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording

Note: Fox is also “Mixed”, for a basis of comparison.

The article itself says that Meadows’ lawyer is denying a guilty plea (but wouldn’t comment on an immunity deal) so it’s already somewhat shaky.

I’d say be hopeful but don’t bet your firstborn on it quite yet.

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> **[Justice Department informs Trump he is target in classified documents probe,...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/07/politics/trump-justice-department-classified-documents/index.html)**
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> The Justice Department recently informed Donald Trump’s legal team that he is a target in a federal investigation into the possible mishandling of classified documents, sources familiar with the matter told CNN, a sign that prosecutors may be moving...

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5004 "2023-06-07T23:56:27Z")

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“I’m not a target, you’re a target”  
_spoiled rich baby, entitled fuckwad douchebagism expresses itself_

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5005 "2023-06-08T00:14:48Z")

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Funny, that Fox News doesn’t have anything about this on their website. Their headline is [FBI makes decision on viewing of doc thought to contain serious allegation against Biden](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-willing-to-allow-all-house-oversight-committee-members-to-view-biden-doc-alleging-criminal-scheme).

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Just was watching CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 where the folks were discussing Mark Meadows as if what we’re hearing from the Guardian is correct.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5007 "2023-06-08T00:43:40Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Their headline is [FBI makes decision on viewing of doc thought to contain serious allegation against Biden](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-willing-to-allow-all-house-oversight-committee-members-to-view-biden-doc-alleging-criminal-scheme).

And when nothing comes of it (because it’s a big old nothingburger), then they’ll scream about how Biden is a criminal who gets away with murder. This is the kind of thing Trump whines about when he claims he’s the target of a witch hunt. Which I’m sure we’ll be getting an extra dose of really soon, as indictments come out.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5008 "2023-06-08T01:12:03Z")

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I tend to think the most reliable indicator that this is reliable reporting is Trump’s apoplectic response to the rumor.

> **[Trump melts down on Truth Social over reports that special counsel "wants to...](https://www.salon.com/2023/06/05/melts-down-on-truth-social-over-reports-that-special-counsel-wants-to-indict-me/)**
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> “Looks like someone has received some very bad news from his legal team,” said MSNBC legal analyst Katie Phang.

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[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx0g24dX0AMwWhq?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx0g24dX0AMwWhq?format=jpg&name=small)

What about the boxes on Hunter’s laptop?

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
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I have a question, and I apologize if it’s been addressed upthread.

If Trump is indicted, and all of this finally goes to trial, will it be televised? I can see arguments for either way, so I’m curious how it will pan out.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5011 "2023-06-08T01:31:21Z")

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Proceedings in federal courts are not televised. I don’t think they will change their rules for this case.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5012 "2023-06-08T01:38:42Z")

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They could run it on Pay-per-View and balance the national budget…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5013 "2023-06-08T01:57:26Z")

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How typical of Trump, that he thinks that having boxes is the issue, rather than, you know, the contents of those boxes.

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
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That’s no lie. Plus giving every living American $5,000.

Aspenglow, thank you. I thought that was the correct answer, but I wasn’t certain.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5015 "2023-06-08T02:24:58Z")

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> [@Oxido](#):
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> Any thoughts on this and why this piece of information is not getting more attention from the media?

I’m not sure there’s much of a difference between possessing a classified document and a photocopy of a classified document.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Be respectful but efficient.

Like the bailiff who let the door close in his face when he was in new York.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> How typical of Trump, that he thinks that having boxes is the issue, rather than, you know, the contents of those boxes.

I’m wondering where he came up with 1,852 boxes. That’s a lot of boxes.

It also reminds me of the scene in the original _Manchurian Candidate_ where James Gregory is complaining to Angela Lansbury about trying to remember how many communists there are supposed in the State Department as he dumps ketchup onto his eggs. Quick cut-- “There are 52 known communists in the State Department!”

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5016 "2023-06-08T02:27:51Z")

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[NY Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/07/us/politics/trump-documents-florida-grand-jury.html) is being more circumspect about this story:

> Federal prosecutors have informed the legal team for former President Donald J. Trump that he is a target of their investigation into his handling of classified documents after he left office, according to two people familiar with the matter.
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> The notification to Mr. Trump’s team by prosecutors from the office of the special counsel, Jack Smith, was the clearest signal yet that the former president is likely to face charges in the investigation.
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> It remained unclear when Mr. Trump’s team was told that he was a target of the special counsel’s inquiry, but the notice suggested that prosecutors working for Mr. Smith had largely completed their investigation and were moving toward bringing an indictment.

It’s all about “signals” and “suggestions.” They are saying an indictment seems likely, but not saying definite, not saying when of course, and nothing at all about Meadows (sadly).

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5017 "2023-06-08T03:57:38Z")

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It seems to me that Meadows would be way more involved with the Jan 6 investigation than the documents case. Did the article at The Independent specify which one the supposed plea deal involved?

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5018 "2023-06-08T04:01:25Z")

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> [@Jungian\_Camisole1](#):
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> If Trump is indicted, and all of this finally goes to trial, will it be televised?

I don’t think a trial is a sure thing. Trump may agree to plead guilty in exchange for his testimony against Walt Nauta.

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According to MSNBC’s reporting all day today, Meadows’ testimony is pivotal to both investigations.

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**Author:** ![Oxido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Oxido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oxido)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5020 "2023-06-08T04:59:32Z")

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Im just wondering, who made the copy (certainly not PAB) , how many more are there, and where is the original?

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