# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5021 "2023-06-08T11:55:36Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> If they wait a week, they can give him the indictment as a birthday present.

I’d love to see them do that, then make sure to regularly play stupid and pretend it was just a coincidence. Like every time Trump did the same thing.  
(But don’t actually do that, the GOP would tear the DOJ apart, accusing them of being political and petty and clearly forgetting all the times day defended trump for doing exactly the same thing)

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5022 "2023-06-08T12:04:13Z")

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Anyone heard reporting on which venue the DOJ is going to file in? Seems like it’ll end up in FL southern district one way or another.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5023 "2023-06-08T12:12:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Funny, that Fox News doesn’t have anything about this on their website. Their headline is [FBI makes decision on viewing of doc thought to contain serious allegation against Biden](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-willing-to-allow-all-house-oversight-committee-members-to-view-biden-doc-alleging-criminal-scheme).

One nice thing about all the accusations the Right makes towards the left is that, even if they’re a waste of time and money, and least it gives us a list of things they’ll probably get caught doing in the near future. This one might be a little late, but in some cases, it seems so random, they’d have been better off keeping their mouths shut instead of making the left question what they’re even talking about.  
Look at the groomer thing. Seemingly out of nowhere, they started accusing damn near everyone on the left of being a groomer. It was just their goto comeback for anything. Even one/some of the missing and exploited children group asked them stop using it (incorrectly).  
And for the last 6 months or so it seems like every day I see another dozen mugshots of GOP activists, priests, cops etc arrested for grooming.  
(Side question, all these people getting accused/arrested, has there been an increase in arrests lately or is the not-a-dragqueen thing just making it get more attention (ie the me too movement)? When this first started to ramp up, I thought maybe they broke up some type of child abuse ring, but I feel like it’s been going on for too long for that to be the case. )

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5024 "2023-06-08T12:28:50Z")

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I think it’s because these stupid pedos are going out of their way to make bold anti-grooming statements before getting arrested. Like the guy I just read about this week who vandalized a library by spray painting groomers or something on it, who now just got busted for child p\*rn. The public hypocrisy makes it more newsworthy.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5025 "2023-06-08T12:29:27Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> How typical of Trump, that he thinks that having boxes is the issue, rather than, you know, the contents of those boxes.

And that he thinks having the boxes is obstruction, not the keeping them part.

Of course he doesn’t believe any of that. He thinks his supporters do. He thinks he’s fooling everyone. He thinks he’s the cleverest guy on earth and absolutely pulling one over on everyone else.

I wish his supporters would realize just how stupid he honestly thinks they are. Problem is, as long as they don’t push back, they’re just as stupid as the people that actually do believe him.  
I understand republicans will support republicans, I just wish, even for their own sake, they’d pick better republicans. It’s like they completely forgot to drain the swamp.

And, there’s another random accusation that would have been better left unsaid. The whole ‘drain the swamp’ thing, even though it was Trump and his cronies that turned the stagnant pond into the swamp it is today. Like finding out the guy that touts himself as the ‘best pool cleaner in town’ just collects your money and shits in the pool.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5026 "2023-06-08T12:55:54Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I wish his supporters would realize just how stupid he honestly thinks they are.

But he _loves_ the poorly educated!

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Trump may agree to plead guilty in exchange for his testimony against Walt Nauta.

LOL, thanks for my out-loud guffaw of the day.

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> Anyone heard reporting on which venue the DOJ is going to file in? Seems like it’ll end up in FL southern district one way or another.

Most of the reporting I’ve heard is that DOJ will split the indictments between Washington DC and the Southern District of Florida. Makes sense to me.

Apparently, DOJ did the same thing with the Paul Manafort prosecutions.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5029 "2023-06-08T14:01:55Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Just flying through the reporting, but came to a screeching stop when I saw this from CNN’s Kaitlan Collins:
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> [https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1556816677865660417?t=7RW8uGmW\_SRo8nJ-6tD0hQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1556816677865660417?t=7RW8uGmW_SRo8nJ-6tD0hQ&s=19)
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> Jay Bratt? Wonder what his agency does…

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52273392541_b2b41e933e_b.jpg "20220808\_233938") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52273392541/)

It is being reported that our friend Jay led the questioning for the Miami grand jury yesterday…

> **[Multiple witnesses subpoenaed in Florida in Trump Mar-a-Lago case](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/07/trump-documents-grand-jury-florida-espionage-act)**
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> Unreported involvement of top prosecutor Jay Bratt in the Florida grand jury could suggest questions about Espionage Act violations

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I’m wondering where he came up with 1,852 boxes. That’s a lot of boxes.

I was wondering that too, but now it’s going to become gospel on all the right wing media, just like trump’s claim that Obama stole documents and put them in an unsecured bowling alley.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5031 "2023-06-08T17:59:36Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> > [@DesertDog](#):
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> > I’m wondering where he came up with 1,852 boxes. That’s a lot of boxes.
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> I was wondering that too,

> **[Delaware Supreme Court hears arguments over FOIA requests for Biden’s papers](https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-supreme-court-hears-arguments-over-foia-requests-for-bidens-papers/)**
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> Biden gifted the papers to UDel in 2011 when he was vice president. The total collection includes more than 1,850 boxes of documents and 415 gigabytes of electronic records.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I too am struggling with the logistics of this. Either (most likely) it’s all bullshit, or Mar-A-Lago is _spectacularly_ badly designed and cheaply built (less likely but still plausible).

Has anybody built a model in minifig scale, Mar-A-Lego?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5033 "2023-06-08T18:36:03Z")

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Many, first on Kimmel. Search [mar a lego - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=mar+a+lego&rlz=1CATTSD_enUS774US774&oq=Mar+a+lego&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j0i10i22i30l4j0i22i30j0i10i22i30l2.9977j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=tK0VEY3E6MrFsM)

Some sets have Ivanka’s grave complete with classified documents.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5034 "2023-06-08T18:40:37Z")

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Trump is like the guy who gets stopped by security guards as he’s leaving a store, and gets caught with pockets full of things he shoplifted. As the police are called, he screams that he’s being persecuted because nobody is stopping the other people who are walking out of the store with merchandise.

When it’s pointed out that they **bought** those items, he ignores that and continues to call himself a victim.

Same deal here. Previous presidents went through proper channels and only took the items that were approved. The fact that Trump just took anything he wanted is ignored by him and his supporters.

Fortunately, the law does not overlook such minor details.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Some sets have Ivanka’s grave complete with classified documents.

Ivana?

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Many, first on Kimmel. Search [mar a lego - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=mar+a+lego&rlz=1CATTSD_enUS774US774&oq=Mar+a+lego&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j0i10i22i30l4j0i22i30j0i10i22i30l2.9977j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=tK0VEY3E6MrFsM)
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> Some sets have Ivanka’s grave complete with classified documents.

Ivana was buried at Bedminster. Ivanka is still roaming loose.

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Aurrrgh. Both are/were named Ivana, Ivanka\* adopted that name by herself. I thought it was the other way. Shoot. Still, one of the lego sets has **IVANA** buried at Mar a Lardo with the documents in the grave (it was humor, not a documentary).

\*\*Ivana Marie “Ivanka” Trump

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Ivanka\* adopted that name by herself

Adding the ka is apparently a common diminutive in Russian.

[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ка](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-%D0%BA%D0%B0)

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It’s always Russia with these fuckers.

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In Russian, I believe that’s fucka’s.

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