# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5081 "2023-06-09T00:09:40Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> LOL, who do you think? 😉

Looks like you win your bet, @Aspenglow !

Plus that poster on another board was correct about Thursday. I’m not about to post there to offer congratulations, but I will look in at that board to see how many RWNJs are melting down. Or at least posting, “But Biden had documents too! Payoffs from China! Hunter’s laptop!” and their usual other talking points.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5082 "2023-06-09T00:10:51Z")

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Now comes the FO phase. About time.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5083 "2023-06-09T00:12:30Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> As does FOX.

To be fair, at this moment Faux News has a guy yammering about a politically motivated witch hunt.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I’m tipping my first flute of champagne in your direction. 🙂

Cold beer for me, but that’s fairly normal this time of day, especially since I was watching a baseball game on TV, and beer goes well with baseball. The news posted here made me flip over to CNN to find out more about what’s happening; and to get me to change the channel from a baseball game takes some doing!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5085 "2023-06-09T00:15:15Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Cold beer for me, but that’s fairly normal this time of day, especially since I was watching a baseball game on TV, and beer goes well with baseball.

\< _clink_!! \> 🥂

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5086 "2023-06-09T00:15:19Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@Moriarty](#):
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> > As does FOX.
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> To be fair, at this moment Faux News has a guy yammering about a politically motivated witch hunt.

Yeah, but “turning to FOX” was how I knew - really allowed myself to believe - that Obama won the election in ‘08.

Seeing their white faces - they were also in shock too.

It’s my litmus test for testing the veracity of any really good political news - does even FOX have to acknowledge it?

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5087 "2023-06-09T00:19:13Z")

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Like!

I have such mixed feelings about all of the action. The lunatics are going to lose their minds.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5088 "2023-06-09T00:21:44Z")

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Charles Coleman was just speaking on MSNBC and reminded me of an important fact: Florida has a rocket docket. This will give Jack Smith some good control to keep this case moving along.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5089 "2023-06-09T00:22:25Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Plus that poster on another board was correct about Thursday. I’m not about to post there to offer congratulations, but I will look in at that board to see how many RWNJs are melting down. Or at least posting, “But Biden had documents too! Payoffs from China! Hunter’s laptop!” and their usual other talking points.

Just had a look. Yep, they’re freaking out. Lots of talk about the above, plus a dose of “But Hillary! But Obama!” And of course, the DOJ has been weaponized by Biden. Either that, or it’s the one that’s running the show while Joe is too confused to have masterminded anything.

In other words, the usual from them.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5090 "2023-06-09T00:22:31Z")

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I put on Newsmax long enough to see some guy using Trump’s playbook: “New York Democrats have been calling me ~~with tears in their eyes~~ saying this is a bad day for our country.”

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5091 "2023-06-09T00:22:31Z")

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Oh what a night, early June in 23! What a very special night for us, 7 indictments, what a night.

So, for sure obstruction, mishandling classified documents, what others? Lying to justice?

Got to love how they kept Florida quiet for over a month.

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Espionage?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5093 "2023-06-09T00:24:11Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> So, for sure obstruction, mishandling classified documents, what others? Lying to justice?

There’s been pretty consistent reporting (unverified, obviously) that violation of the Espionage Act will be charged.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5094 "2023-06-09T00:24:38Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> So, for sure obstruction, mishandling classified documents, what others? Lying to justice?

Espionage? (Oh please oh please oh please ….)

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5095 "2023-06-09T00:25:25Z")

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Did the espionage happen in Florida or bedminster?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5096 "2023-06-09T00:26:21Z")

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> [@Trump vs. DeSantis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-desantis/970088/9):
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> DeSantis, more than anyone, is probably hoping more than anyone that Trump goes to jail. The only way he wins the nomination is if Trump isn’t running against him. And if he can run in the general on, “I will pardon Trump day one,” he’ll probably win.

I thought DeSantis would do this, and he still may, but he won’t be first.

> <https://twitter.com/dylanewells/status/1666959451763486730>

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5097 "2023-06-09T00:27:31Z")

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I suspect we’re going to see indictments split between various venues. Some for DC, some for Florida – and maybe one for New Jersey. It’s always possible we’ll see superseding indictments, too.

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According to one of the talking heads on CNN, Trump immediately started fundraising for his defense. Can anybody confirm?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5099 "2023-06-09T00:33:43Z")

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Over on the “What if Trump quits?” thread I presumed that the Republican candidates would be embarrassed to admit publicly that they would pardon Trump. Boy, was I wrong.

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I’m told that it’s also very common in Russian to go by various sorts of nicknames. One person might have a half-dozen different nicknames, in different circles. My old Russian classmates were a bit baffled that everyone in America called them by the same version of their name they first introduced themselves as.

\<reads further down thread…\>

Oh. Oh my.

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