# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5121 "2023-06-09T00:54:35Z")

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LOL, you’re too funny.

We used to refer to it as fast tracking cases in California. It’s just a mechanism to run cases of priority public interest through the court system faster than the normal schedule. I’m not familiar with Florida’s, but we could move cases quick when we needed to in California.

(Happily ninja’d by @EddyTeddyFreddy!)

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5122 "2023-06-09T00:57:52Z")

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I wonder how many others are going to be indicted on this mar a lago case. If trump is charged with conspiracy to obstruct, there should be charges on those with which he conspired. Yes?

Poor ms post. I bet she never thought this sort of thing would happen in her house.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5123 "2023-06-09T00:58:02Z")

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I’ve been waiting so long to say this, and I know it hasn’t even gone to trial yet, let alone achieved a guilty verdict, but:

LOCK HIM UP!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5124 "2023-06-09T00:58:19Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> LOL, you’re too funny.

It’s how we address the clerk in Canada: “I will pass the amended motion to Madam Clerk, and ask that it be stamped as received.”

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5125 "2023-06-09T00:58:23Z")

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Can he be pardoned if he takes a plea deal?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5126 "2023-06-09T00:58:54Z")

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Only thing I know is that [Inna and I](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/love-in-the-age-of-trump-or-i-fell-in-love-with-a-republican/980600) were @ a restaurant when the Trump indictment came though, @ a restaurant when the Carroll case was decided, and just decided on eating out when this happened.

Obviously we need to eat out more.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5127 "2023-06-09T00:59:14Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> It’s how we address the clerk in Canada: “I will pass the amended motion to Madam Clerk, and ask that it be stamped as received.”

Yes, it’s how we were addressed in our courts, too. It just gave me a giggle. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Can he be pardoned if he takes a plea deal?

If it’s a federal charge, sure.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5129 "2023-06-09T01:01:04Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> If trump is charged with conspiracy to obstruct, there should be charges on those with which he conspired. Yes?

Yes, at least one other, and each co-conspirator need not have engaged in every criminal act of the conspiracy. So, A and B did X; B and C did Y; A and D did Z; but A, B, C, and D are all co-conspirators.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Obviously we need to eat out more.

Be sure to be eating out when the verdict is announced.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5131 "2023-06-09T01:03:12Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Obviously we need to eat out more.

Maybe an SDMB Go-Fund me: “Want more Trump court action? Help John and Inna eat out!|”

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5132 "2023-06-09T01:04:51Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Yes, at least one other, and each co-conspirator need not have engaged in every criminal act of the conspiracy. So, A and B did X; B and C did Y; A and D did Z; but A, B, C, and D are all co-conspirators.

I’m expecting others to be charged.

And even more in the January 6th case, but that’s for another thread.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5133 "2023-06-09T01:06:58Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> The Espionage Act is an overreaching World War I era law that liberals traditionally dislike.

It may be an overreach; I don’t know enough about it.

But, as long as it’s on the books, it should be fairly applied to all who breach it.

Trump should be tried on exactly the same legal principles that [Robert Hanssen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen#Guilty_plea_and_imprisonment) faced. If acquitted, so be it.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5134 "2023-06-09T01:07:05Z")

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Looking forward to reading the tome titled :

The United States of America v Donald John trump

Like any prospective best seller it should be released on a Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5135 "2023-06-09T01:09:03Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Maybe an SDMB Go-Fund me: “Want more Trump court action? Help John and Inna eat out!|”

Shit, I’m targeting MAGA with a $600k GoFundMe ask to keep us _out_ of restaurants. Have you learned _nothing_ the past 8 years? 😉

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5136 "2023-06-09T01:11:38Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Over on the “What if Trump quits?” thread I presumed that the Republican candidates would be embarrassed to admit publicly that they would pardon Trump. Boy, was I wrong.

Almost everyone is wrong here sometimes, but not everyone admits it 😉

A promise to pardon would only last until the day a Republican other than DJT was nominated. Nixon was pardoned before DeSantis was born, but his aides must all know how it went for Jerry Ford.

I suppose that if Biden is re-elected, and Trump put in prison a few years from now, and DeSantis takes the White House, in 2029, and Trump is then dying from cancer, Ron would let him spend his last few months at home. But every stipulation in the last sentence, except maybe for DeSantis being president in 2029, is unlikely.

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> And there’s no way he can exhaust appeals before November 2024.

Hypothetical: he’s found guilty and files an appeal. Won’t he be in jail until the appeal is heard? That’s the way it usually is, as I understand it. (To be fair, that’s from movies and a few really high profile cases that have penetrated my consciousness, but they go to jail yelling “I will appeal!”.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5138 "2023-06-09T01:13:26Z")

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I’m pretty gleeful. I really don’t care about the politics. I want that lying, raping, traitor, to face consequences for his actions. I want to see him to face these consequences for all the garbage he’s pulled and gotten away with for years.

I’m gleeful about this … hell I’m giddy about it, 😆 but I especially want to see him indicted for January 6th. (I guess this is where politics does come in but for me it’s more about ethics and morals.) This country needs to reign back the bullies, haters, and authoritarians. Putting his evil butt in jail is just the first step in the long march back to some sort of normality. Then perhaps this country can start progressing again instead of sliding into the stone age. Faint hope, but there always has to be hope.

Ooops, I probably shouldn’t bring up other investigations. Please consider me reminded.

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Why does he need to fundraise if he’s going to stiff his lawyers anyway? What’s the earliest we can hope for a trial?

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> > [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> > I don’t understand the progressive joy here.
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> > We know from polling, since the New York indictment, that bring charged doesn’t hurt Trump. And there’s no way he can exhaust appeals before November 2024.
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> We are fucking weird. We like to see criminals brought to justice via due process of law.
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> The Law & Order folks don’t understand this.

Additionally, each indictment just makes the next ones easier to bring. It’s not such a big leap to indict him in Georgia - he’s already under state indictment. It’s not such a big leap to indict him for January 6 - he’s already under federal indictment.

And the more the indictments roll up, the closer we get to some tangible measure of Justice.

A perp walk.  
House arrest.  
The burgeoning stress and despair.

Whatever it is, it’s going to be splendid.

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