# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 263
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5241 "2023-06-09T16:27:01Z")
I have to believe that Jack Smith knew it would be likely that Judge Cannon would be presiding over the case. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a part of the reason this case was filed in the Southern District of Florida. To me, it suggests that Jack Smith feels his case is rock-solid. If he secures a conviction with Judge Cannon presiding, there will not be much to appeal. If it was tried in DC with a Obama appointed judge, the cries of “corrupt legal system” would never end. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5242 "2023-06-09T16:33:20Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > To me, it suggests that Jack Smith feels his case is rock-solid. That’s a very optimistic spin on this development, and I hope you’re right. But I’m concerned, not that she can throw the case entirely, but that she can introduce specious delays (such as the Special Master bullshit that she tried to pull earlier) that will take it past the election of 2024 at worst (although the very worst is that Trump wins in 2024) and at best gives him a reprieve of extra months if not years of being able to claim innocence. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5243 "2023-06-09T16:44:46Z")
Why did Smith file it in that district? I was under the impression that trump was seriously judge shopping to get the previous iteration of this case in Loose Cannon’s court. Is Mar A Flood-o in that district? ETA: Michael Popok from Meidas Touch Network (lawyer podcasts) said they wouldn’t file in Loose Cannon’s district. I was hoping he knew what he was talking about. Crap. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5244 "2023-06-09T16:57:44Z")
Well, the Cannon news killed my buzz. Fun while it lasted. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5245 "2023-06-09T17:14:10Z")
Isn’t the DOJ going to file anything in DC? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5246 "2023-06-09T17:15:07Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Why did Smith file it in that district? I was under the impression that trump was seriously judge shopping to get the previous iteration of this case in Loose Cannon’s court. Is Mar A Flood-o in that district? _Slate_ speculated that filing in Florida was a hedge by Smith against picking the wrong venue and losing the ability to retry him in the correct venue. The law is unsettled in this area, and in fact the issue was in front of SCOTUS a few weeks ago. See here for the legal details. > **[Pending Supreme Court Case Complicates Special Counsel Smith’s Choices](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/06/trump-grand-jury-move-to-florida.html)** > > How a little-noted pending Supreme Court case may have led Special Counsel Jack Smith to charge Trump in Florida. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5247 "2023-06-09T17:22:41Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Why did Smith file it in that district? I was under the impression that trump was seriously judge shopping to get the previous iteration of this case in Loose Cannon’s court. Is Mar A Flood-o in that district? > > ETA: Michael Popok from Meidas Touch Network (lawyer podcasts) said they wouldn’t file in Loose Cannon’s district. I was hoping he knew what he was talking about. Crap. My layman understanding is that in federal cases, judges who have previously been involved with a case get selected (usually? always? more often?) for subsequent duties. Cannon’s experience with the special master situation means she got bumped to the front of the line regardless of district. As I said upthread, tip of the hat to Trump’s legal team for shopping for her in the first place. If my understanding is correct, then that turned out to be quite the savvy move. Corrections welcome; I have no cites or personal knowledge to back any of this up. It’s just what I read upthread. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5248 "2023-06-09T17:25:34Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Why did Smith file it in that district? I was under the impression that trump was seriously judge shopping to get the previous iteration of this case in Loose Cannon’s court. Is Mar A Flood-o in that district? From my understanding, when Trump was judge shopping he chose to file in an area court that only had one judge, Cannon. This case was filed in the southern district, which includes about 5 judges. Cannon is one of them. Plus, as noted above, she may have had a leg up because she has previous experience with the case. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5249 "2023-06-09T17:35:36Z")
Well, that is frustrating as hell. Cannon’s involvement is at least going to make the case take months longer to wind through than it already would have, probably, which was long enough. Apparently Mar-a-Shitto (I’m sorry, I can’t help it) is in the district DOJ filed in. Shit, shit, shit. Trump is going to get elected again and eventually die of natural causes before the case can get anywhere near resolution, if we still have a court system at all after that anymore. Sorry for the negativity. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5250 "2023-06-09T17:43:15Z")
Press conference scheduled for 3:00 p.m. EDT today by the special counsel. The indictment has been unsealed. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5251 "2023-06-09T17:45:11Z")
Indictment just unsealed. I’m searching out a copy. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5252 "2023-06-09T17:49:20Z")
Reading [an article on the indictment’s effect on electability](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/09/trump-indicted-charges-classified-documents/#link-FMKVCDFH5RDX3CC7JECVZH7QTA), I ran across this sentence: > [@](#): > > [GOP] State committee members gathered amid the smoke and mosquitoes were already anticipating Trump’s speech to the convention on Saturday I hope an editor can fix this sentence to clarify which set of bloodsucking parasites are looking forward to the speech. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5253 "2023-06-09T17:53:00Z")
i found this: [gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdf (courtlistener.com)](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5254 "2023-06-09T17:54:30Z")
> **[read-trump-indictment-related-to-mishandling-of-classified-documents.pdf](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23839627/read-trump-indictment-related-to-mishandling-of-classified-documents.pdf)** > > 1749.98 KB ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5255 "2023-06-09T17:56:11Z")
whoa page 10. the boxes on the stage of the ballroom! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5256 "2023-06-09T17:56:11Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > In other news, PAB has fired several of his lawyers and hired new ones Who is PAB, please? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5257 "2023-06-09T17:56:19Z")
Mention being made of Attorney 1, Attorney 2 and Attorney 3 possibly being in trouble. And 31 counts of withholding documents. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5258 "2023-06-09T17:56:32Z")
mr trump is pab. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5259 "2023-06-09T17:56:58Z")
Why, please? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5260 "2023-06-09T17:58:04Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Who is PAB, please? Trump. It’s another initialism, like “TFG” or “CFSG,” that can be used to refer to Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=262) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=264)