# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> OK, it’s hiding more boxes…but why?

The Double Secret Stuff is behind the curtain.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5482 "2023-06-10T23:29:06Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I just suspect that in the war room, if somebody talked about getting a different judge, my guess is that Jack Smith would tell them to stop whining.

Yeah, that definitely fits. 🙂

I can’t believe the shitty luck in pulling her for this case.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5483 "2023-06-10T23:37:55Z")

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Maybe trump told Corcoran that he could search everywhere, except his office, and what’s behind the curtain in the bathroom.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I would start with the presumption that Judge Cannon feels the pressure to _get this right_,

Devil’s advocate: she may feel pressure to _get this right_ (wink wink) in order to get appointed to the Supreme Court by a Republican president.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I can’t believe the shitty luck in pulling her for this case.

I don’t think it was luck. A person executed the process that gave her this case. Even if it was literally rolling dice – which I don’t think it was – a sufficiently biased person in that position could end up with whatever answer they wanted. (When I write “sufficiently,” I mean “Judge Cannon level of bias.”)

Someone either in this thread or another asked who that person was. Google indicates it’s the chief judge of the district court, or from a different google answer, the chief court administrator. Do we know who either of those people are?

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> She already knows that her decisions in the case are subject to appeal

Are they? If she goes completely rogue with a directed verdict of not guilty, does double jeopardy attach?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5487 "2023-06-11T00:03:24Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> If she goes completely rogue with a directed verdict of not guilty, does double jeopardy attach?

It’s now called a Judgment of Acquittal, and the rules provide for an opportunity for the government to appeal.

> **[Rule 29. Motion for a Judgment of Acquittal](https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_29)**

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> All kidding aside, I’d really like to know the purpose of that makeshift curtain in the bathroom. What was it hiding?

It’s “hiding” a shower. It’s a shower curtain. They ran out of room in the rest of the bathroom and had to put boxes in the shower.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5489 "2023-06-11T00:33:53Z")

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That’s pretty Motel 6 level interior decorating.

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> does double jeopardy attach?

fyi (since this is the second time I’ve seen this today) the expression is that “jeopardy attaches”, i.e. someone is deemed to have been in jeopardy once. Double jeopardy is the underlying principle that it can’t happen again.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5491 "2023-06-11T00:36:57Z")

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What Motel 6 has ever had faux gold chandeliers in the bathroom? This is quality, quality I tellz ya!

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I was thinking cheesy “nice” restaurant bathroom.

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> **[Trump Appointee Will Remain Judge in Documents Case, Clerk Says](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/10/us/politics/judge-aileen-cannon-trump-documents.html?unlocked_article_code=gNnxI9-41TNaEYMPjEpxcvy59PMDFWkg_j3UW4DjklAH0SwWF6NS5Z3JvBzab7dXyd0sFNt3_Fz5B2qCCjVDCjLxrPuBmdim49amrfyORKXHiN3YRSD9d0M1S0azEUiOAehlElyYpvINgr6CUKGSZUrkiQfIHymSaxhmDFcqQITMLzCbl361QCwsZxg-xBE1KPRWzDwxR0x75_A8J68pHTJxwV4-1xW8tlpYGUk3Lj5AUneTDWVKjVxCKee5P4GvEqU55TtQUqVxfE15wlSFMYPMjyjXn_Da7cVqZxSxuIwApA831vT6o_V0HOxl4iJd19Jga-LwbotpnZ5D7TP6pynHyUFe3rPVdvWWpfr8VTsm&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare)**
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> The chief clerk of the courts for the Southern District of Florida added that Judge Aileen M. Cannon had been randomly assigned to the case.

Specifically the odds of getting her were not outrageous.

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> … Ms. Noble wrote that certain factors increased the chances that the case would land before Judge Cannon.
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> For one, she said, senior judges are removed from the case assignment system, or wheel, once they fulfill their target caseload for the year. At least one of the senior judges is done, she wrote, adding that she was highly confident that the other two “are very likely at their target,” too.
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> In addition, she wrote, one of the seven active judges with chambers in Fort Lauderdale is now a Miami judge for the purpose of assignments. Another is not currently receiving cases.
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> A third active judge, Donald Middlebrooks, draws 50 percent of his criminal cases from the Miami division, she wrote, decreasing his odds. (Judge Middlebrooks this year [ordered Mr. Trump and his lawyers to pay nearly a million dollars](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/politics/trump-clinton-lawsuit-fine.html) in sanctions for having filed a frivolous lawsuit against nearly three dozen of his perceived political enemies, including Hillary Clinton.)
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> Judge Cannon, Ms. Noble wrote, “draws 50 percent of her cases from West Palm Beach, increasing her odds.” …

Fairly sure the prosecution team knew all this. They seem to be okay with having her.

To some degree it neutralizes some political “unfair” … Team Trump has “their” best possible judge. And the case is still that strong.

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Is that an odd sparkly duck on the shelf?

These are the boxes that moved from the ballroom, to the business centre, to the lake room bathroom. Pp 10&11. I reckon that the one marked bedroom got to finally find the way to that room.

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“Pay no attention to the boxes behind the screen!”

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That’s where trump stores all the toys he’s gotten with his Happy Meals.

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> All kidding aside, I’d really like to know the purpose of that makeshift curtain in the bathroom. What was it hiding?

Isn’t that…a _shower_ curtain? In front of a bathtub/shower? In a bathroom?

(eta I see someone else has already pointed this out)

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Someone had the decency to allow the boxes their modesty instead of baring all to God and Creation

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I thought it was phony somehow because I didn’t think a rich people bathroom would look so cheap. I forgot who the rich person was.

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Remember, it is a bathroom at a golf hotel.

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