# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 276
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5501 "2023-06-11T01:45:35Z")
With a fucking chandelier šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5502 "2023-06-11T01:54:27Z")
Nevermind ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5503 "2023-06-11T02:07:07Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > My assumption is that he fired them as a delaying tactic: ā€œWe canā€™t go to trial for another six months because my new lawyers need time to get up to speed on the case.ā€ Speculation from a talking head on MSNBC (might have been Andrew Weissman) was that they dropped out because they wouldnā€™t be able to do so once the trial is actually happening. So they were ā€œwaiting to hear from Mr. Greenā€ or in other words demanding payment in advance. Their departure shows how this worked out for them. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5504 "2023-06-11T02:10:37Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > OK, itā€™s hiding more boxesā€¦but why? I think it is a shower/tub and that is the shower curtain. Along the left you can see the shower surroundā€¦more gaudy marble or whatever that stone is. Itā€™s a ā€œlavishā€ bathroom with a Walmart shower rod and curtain. Doesnā€™t surprise me. Put in a ton of ā€œeleganceā€ to distract from the reality that itā€™s all shit. Dang it - I looked at the replies that were mentioned and posted mine. Then I finished reading the thread and see other replies like mineā€¦not sure why they didnā€™t show up. Anyway, yeah, fake opulence. > **[DirecTV Russian Guy Funny Commercial ("Opulence, I Has It")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkB9OT2XVvA%2F)** > > Russians rule in this great funny advertisement. Oh, and Miniature giraffe is the shiznit, isn't it?Whoever came with this idea of the giraffe is a genius. A... ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5505 "2023-06-11T09:12:55Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The Double Secret Stuff is behind the curtain. Thatā€™s his SCI. It stands for Shower Curtain Infront. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5506 "2023-06-11T11:01:23Z")
People that filmed " [The Devils Advocate](https://www.pajiba.com/film_reviews/-of-course-thats-donald-trumps-garish-sht-bag-apartment-in-the-devils-advocate.php) " Actually used Trumps real apartment. They had this to say - ā€œOh my god. The Trump sh\*t. F\*\*k man, itā€™s _his_ apartment. The killer real-estate molester? We shot in his apartment. We needed the ugliest, most garish, horrifying real-estate developer apartment we could possibly find, and Trump threw his apartment at us. We didnā€™t have to [do anything]. If you look at the movie, thatā€™s his fā€™n shit-bag apartment with all Versailles gilt and the high-rise windows. Itā€™s just so perfect. IMHO the boxes and the curtain rod are the nicest things in that bathroom. It really ties it together. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5507 "2023-06-11T11:24:48Z")
Just wondering about a hypothetical, given the apparently sensitive documents here. Suppose some janitor at Mar a Lago, having nothing to do with the obstruction, and having no real direct relationship with Trump, walks into a storage closet and sees all these boxes next to his Orange Goop. So he sits down and starts reading. Learns where the aliens are held. Discovers the launch code is 1234. Finds out that Hitler and Elvis live together in Argentina. But thatā€™s it. Heā€™s just curious but takes no other action. Assuming this is found out, has he committed a crime? Is he in any trouble? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5508 "2023-06-11T11:29:28Z")
I think Trump avoided that scenario by employing non-English speaking immigrants. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5509 "2023-06-11T11:33:08Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I think Trump avoided that scenario by employing non-English speaking immigrants. - Unintended benefit. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5510 "2023-06-11T11:49:45Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Finds out that Hitler and Elvis live together in Argentina. But thatā€™s it. Heā€™s just curious but takes no other action. > > Assuming this is found out, has he committed a crime? Is he in any trouble? I know your stipulation is that he takes no other action. But he must have a hell of a bad marriage not to tell his wife. Let an unauthorized person know, and thatā€™s an Espionage Act violation. As to what happens if heā€™s an unmarried loner, maybe heā€™ll be OK. But taking it out of the Trump context, I think about: [Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent](https://www.harvard.com/book/9781594035227_three_felonies_a_day_how_the_feds_target_the_innocent/) > [@](#): > > The average professional in this country wakes up in the morning, goes to work, comes home, eats dinner, and then goes to sleep, unaware that he or she has likely committed several federal crimes that day. Why? The answer lies in the very nature of modern federal criminal laws, which have exploded in number but also become impossibly broad and vague. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5511 "2023-06-11T12:14:14Z")
The following was not written by @enipla, but rather directly quoted from the linked article: > [@enipla](#): > > ā€œOh my god. The Trump sh\*t. F\*\*k man, itā€™s _his_ apartment. The killer real-estate molester? We shot in his apartment. We needed the ugliest, most garish, horrifying real-estate developer apartment we could possibly find, and Trump threw his apartment at us. We didnā€™t have to [do anything]. If you look at the movie, thatā€™s his fā€™n shit-bag apartment with all Versailles gilt and the high-rise windows. Itā€™s just so perfect. When I first read this in your post, I thought either you were paraphrasing, or the guy was just being a dick. But the article includes a video clip of the scene in question, and holy shit, that apartment is so much worse than he even described. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5512 "2023-06-11T12:28:02Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > When I first read this in your post, I thought either you were paraphrasing, or the guy was just being a dick. But the article includes a video clip of the scene in question, and holy shit, that apartment is so much worse than he even described. Yeah, I didnā€™t handle that quote very well. I had read before that the film crew where clearly laughing about it in his presence. Sorry no cite. Someone on the SDMB shared a picture of Trump and Melania in the apartment. Melania of course in a gold dress. Now I **am** paraphrasing but the poster said something like this - ā€œEverything in the apartment is covered in gold, even the diggerā€ šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![frognot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frognot/32/8752_2.png) [@frognot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frognot)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5513 "2023-06-11T13:01:21Z")
Seems the folks yelling ā€œLock her up!ā€ in 2016 have problems with ā€œLock him up!ā€ in 2023. Guess pronouns are important. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5514 "2023-06-11T13:21:26Z")
> [@frognot](#): > > have problems with ā€œLock him up!ā€ in 2023 They have no problem whatsoever with ā€œLock him up!ā€, but itā€™s Jack Smith theyā€™re talking about, not the accused. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5515 "2023-06-11T14:59:15Z")
> **[I don't want to live in a country where Trump could be held accountable](https://www.yahoo.com/news/dont-want-live-country-where-080013662.html)** > > Are we really the kind of county that allows 'evidence' to go before a 'grand jury' then lets that grand jury 'vote to indict' a former president? > I mean, what kind of country have we become? One in which federal prosecutors can take ā€œevidenceā€ before a ā€œgrand jury,ā€ and that grand jury can ā€œvote to indictā€ a former president [for 37 alleged ā€œcrimesā€](https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-federal-indictment-unsealed-classified-documents-probe/story?id=99963920)? Look at all the other people out there in America, including Democrats like Hillary Clinton and President Joe Biden, who HAVENā€™T been indicted for crimes on the flimsy excuse that there is no ā€œevidenceā€ they did crimes. THATā€™S TOTALLY UNFAIR! šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5516 "2023-06-11T15:14:17Z")
I skimmed through the article so help me out here. Was this supposed to be satire or is this guy serious? Sadly, itā€™s really difficult to tell these days as the MAGATs are so out there that their reality is already automatic satire. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5517 "2023-06-11T15:17:42Z")
Poeā€™s Law! šŸ˜† > **[Rex Huppke | USA TODAY](https://www.usatoday.com/staff/6878775001/rex-huppke/)** > > Early in his career as a humor(ish) columnist at the Chicago Tribune, Rex Huppke declared himself ā€œAmericaā€™s most-beloved columnist,ā€ a... ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5518 "2023-06-11T15:19:48Z")
Beautifully done! šŸ˜„ ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5519 "2023-06-11T15:22:45Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > Was this supposed to be satire or is this guy serious? _" Iā€™m not sure I want to live in a country where a former president can [wave around classified documents heā€™s not supposed to have and say](https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1667140713539158016?s=20), ā€œThis is secret information. Look at this,ā€ and then be held accountable for his actions."_ Iā€™m about 97% sure itā€™s satire. Most genuine Trump supporters say that he had every right to have the documents, and deny that he showed it to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5520 "2023-06-11T15:25:54Z")
I read it earlier today. Itā€™s got some gems > [@](#): > > TWO TIERS! One tier in which President Trump keeps getting indicted via both state and federal justice systems and another in which the people I donā€™t like keep getting not indicted via all the things Fox News tells me they did wrong. > > Itā€™s like America has become a banana republic, as long as you do as Iā€™ve done and refuse to look up the definition of ā€œbanana republic.ā€ > [@](#): > > Keep in mind, [in 2016, Trump said](https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-speech-charlotte-nc-august-18-2016): ā€œIā€™m going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law.ā€ > > So after he said that, you expect me to believe he didnā€™t protect classified information? Just because, [according to the indictment](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdf), thereā€™s a recording of him holding a classified document in his office at his club in Bedminster, New Jersey, and saying to two staff members and an interviewer: ā€œSee, as president I could have declassified it. ā€¦ Now I canā€™t, you know, but this is still a secret.ā€ And my favorite. > [@](#): > > if in some outrageous scenario President Trump was indicted for murder just because he told a bunch of people that he did a murder, I would say: ā€œHOW DARE YOU CHARGE THIS MAN WITH MURDER WHEN OTHERS IN THE U.S. HAVE NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH MURDER! THERE ARE CLEARLY TWO TIERS OF JUSTICE, ONE IN WHICH MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT, WHO SAID HE MURDERED SOMEONE, IS CHARGED WITH MURDER AND ONE IN WHICH PEOPLE WHO HAVENā€™T MURDERED ARE NOT CHARGED WITH MURDER!ā€ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=275) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=277)