# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 288
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5741 "2023-06-13T17:52:33Z")
And he’s now in the federal courthouse for booking and fingerprinting. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5742 "2023-06-13T17:54:03Z")
some of the vehicles just barely fit in the underground area. nice roof area across from the courthouse. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5743 "2023-06-13T17:55:28Z")
There aren’t as many protesters as it seemed there would be. And they’re pretty well behaved. Flags and signs, but this is definitely not January 6. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5744 "2023-06-13T17:56:47Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > How strong is the case if Judge Cannon rules that none of the attorney-client privilege can be waived? That would still leave the employees testifying (those ID’d in the case as Employee 1 and Employee 2). And any documentary evidence that the feds have and can use. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5745 "2023-06-13T18:00:15Z")
I just keep thinking that there was a lot of evidence against OJ, too. Throw out the attorney client privilege evidence and get down to OJ levels of evidence… ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5746 "2023-06-13T18:07:01Z")
But that’s the thing. In a lot of cases, the evidence is complicated. That makes it honestly hard for the jury to understand, and also makes it easier for the lawyers to enhance their confusion. “DNA? What’s that? How accurate is it? I don’t know!” But this case is stupidly obvious. “See these documents stamped “Secret”? They’re secret. See this photo of them being stored on a semi-public ballroom stage, and in a bathroom? They’re not supposed to be stored on a semi-public ballroom stage, and in a bathroom. Hear Trump saying he isn’t supposed to show this to the other person? Trump wasn’t supposed to show it to the other person.” Kind of hard to lose track of that chain of arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5747 "2023-06-13T18:10:58Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But this case is stupidly obvious. “See these documents stamped “Secret”? They’re secret. See this photo of them being stored on a semi-public ballroom stage, and in a bathroom? They’re not supposed to be stored on a semi-public ballroom stage, and in a bathroom. Hear Trump saying he isn’t supposed to show this to the other person? Trump wasn’t supposed to show it to the other person.” “It’s all hearsay,” says the biased judge. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5748 "2023-06-13T18:11:45Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Hear Trump saying he isn’t supposed to show this to the other person? Trump wasn’t supposed to show it to the other person. And the way to get that evidence in? Call the reporter who he was talking to as a witness. They’ll say what happened. Then they’ll say they made a recording of it. Then they’ll confirm that the recording is an accurate representation of the conversation (this is called “authenticating” the evidence). Then they’ll admit the recording as evidence. Then they’ll play the recording for the jury. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5749 "2023-06-13T18:12:51Z")
i don’t believe so. he took the documents, he was asked to return the documents, he returned some documents and hid other documents, he involved others in hiding the documents. rather straight forward. trump is now heading into the court room. we should be seeing sketches soon. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5750 "2023-06-13T18:13:31Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > “It’s all hearsay,” says the biased judge. Yes, but that’s not an issue of the quality or complexity of the evidence. If a judge really is that biased, well, you’ve already lost, no matter what evidence you’re allowed to present. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5751 "2023-06-13T18:15:12Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > we should be seeing sketches soon. …on _Saturday Night Live!_ ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5752 "2023-06-13T18:15:47Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > “It’s all hearsay,” says the biased judge. “Fortunately, there is a hearsay exception that applies,” says the intrepid prosecutor. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5753 "2023-06-13T18:16:05Z")
Someone on CNN just referred to Jack Smith as the first person to ever bring criminal charges against a former President of the United States. Isn’t Alvin Bragg the first person to do that? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5754 "2023-06-13T18:18:52Z")
The Mouth of Sauron\* is speaking. Weaponization, two-tiers, blah blah. \*Alina Habba. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5755 "2023-06-13T18:19:07Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Isn’t Alvin Bragg the first person to do that? Yes. if they left out the modifier “federal” then the person on CNN was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5756 "2023-06-13T18:19:09Z")
Just a funny aside: I just heard that the courtroom they’re meeting in is on the 13th floor. On the 13th of June. Is the Don superstitious? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5757 "2023-06-13T18:19:26Z")
His lawyer’s whole speech can be boiled down to “Unfair!” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5758 "2023-06-13T18:20:11Z")
Listening to that lawyer whine made me want to take a shower. What a crock of shit she was spewing. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5759 "2023-06-13T18:20:34Z")
One thing to look for today that I haven’t seen mentioned in this thread, or pretty much anywhere, is whether DOJ requests a conflict review for Nauta’s attorney. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5760 "2023-06-13T18:25:55Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > whether DOJ requests a conflict review for Nauta’s attorney I could be wrong, but I don’t think that’s their role. Nauta’s attorneys have an obligation to defend him regardless of who is paying their fees. They know that. There is nothing inherently unethical about a co-defendant paying those fees. It can get messy, to be sure, but II don’t think the DOJ has any business butting in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=287) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=289)