# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
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It’s a shame that come trial time we’ll never get to see Trump take the stand. I would wait in line for three hours and pay $500 for an uncomfortable courtroom seat to be able to witness him getting cross examined. No competent attorney representing him would ever allow that to happen, though…

_You’re damned right I ordered that Code Red!_

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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“YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE COFEVE!”

(complete sentence for discourse)

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5763 "2023-06-13T18:42:50Z")

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Alina Habba (“Spokeswoman for Donald Trump,” according to the CNN chyron) now speaking on CNN. “They hate Donald Trump!”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5764 "2023-06-13T18:51:04Z")

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I feel for the cable news networks. They’ve been on the air for hours now, with no pictures to show (other than the helicopter shots of the motorcade and 100 flag-waving protesters) and no real developments to discuss. As one of the commentators said, “not all historic events are made for television” and this is one.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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A good point. CNN just remarked that nobody really knows what’s happening inside the courthouse. There are reporters in there, but they cannot use their phones, and cameras are not allowed. All that CNN can do is show outdoor shots of protesters, helicopter video of the courthouse roof, and have a bunch of talking heads reiterating what we already know, speculating about what might be happening, and whatnot.

I’m pretty sure that when something happens, they’ll be ready to jump; but right now, it’s not terribly gripping television.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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Just catching up. How many people are in the crowd? Excluding media. Anybody obviously armed?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5767 "2023-06-13T18:59:08Z")

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And the TMZ headline:

> **[Donald Trump Arrested, Booked At Miami Court For Classified Documents Indictment](https://www.tmz.com/2023/06/13/donald-trump-arrest-charged-classified-documents-indictment-miami-court/)**
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> Donald Trump has officially arrived at a court in Miami ... getting arrested and booked for his indictment regarding the droves of classified documents authorities say he stashed away at Mar-a-Lago.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
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I don’t care about seeing him take the stand Iwhich he won’t). I want to see his ugly face as he’s pronounced guilty. And again when when he’s sentenced. And again when he arrives at his federal prison.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Alina Habba (“Spokeswoman for Donald Trump,” according to the CNN chyron) now speaking on CNN. “They hate Donald Trump!”

\< Habba pulls out a mithril vest and throws it at the reporters \>

_I have a token I was bidden to show thee._

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Jack Smith “in the front row” (I infer in the gallery, not at the attorney’s table). Did we know he would be there? And if so, why did I think that he would _not_ be there.

\*per a Fox News reporter in Miami

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5771 "2023-06-13T19:03:44Z")

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Hard to say, since we may not be seeing all possible camera angles at all locations.

Maybe 100? Lots of flags, no noise, no weapons.

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i switched over to msnbc, they have katyal, and weissmann.

they also have an ex trump lawyer who is saying he witnessed prosecutorial misconduct during the grand jury.

trump has entered his non guilty plea.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Just catching up. How many people are in the crowd? Excluding media. Anybody obviously armed?

I’d guess two or three hundred, tops. Trump flags and signs, of course, but the crowd is well behaved. None obviously armed, but the key word is “obviously.” The most disruptive I’ve seen so far was when a guy carrying a sign ran out onto the road after the motorcade passed. He was ushered back to the sidewalk by police.

Lots of media, of course, but most importantly (I think) there is plenty of law enforcement. And I mean plenty; maybe as many as January 6, if not more. That likely is making the relatively small crowd of protesters think twice about stirring stuff up.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> The most disruptive I’ve seen so far was when a guy carrying a sign ran out onto the road after the motorcade passed. He was ushered back to the sidewalk by police.

Note: He was an anti-trump protester carrying a “Lock Him Up” sign.

But pretty harmless.

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> It’s a shame that come trial time we’ll never get to see Trump take the stand.

I think that the lack of audio/video coverage of the trial is going to go a long way towards Americans being unmoved by the proceeding.

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To the tune of “Ode to Billy Joe”

Was the thirteenth of June, another hot and steamy Miami day  
I was trash talking Trump, Ron DeSantis was abusing gays  
And at arraignment time we stopped and laughed and said, “Now, ain’t this sweet?”  
And Melania hollered out the back door, “God almighty, I just might be free.”  
And then she said, I got some news from my husband, Mr. Felony  
Today, Donald John Trump will face the music rather ruefully.

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I don’t want to take this too far off-topic but I suspect in the future we’ll be seeing a number of made for tv biopic dramatizations that’ll help the American public better visualize and understand the import on an emotional level of just what went on in the Trump White House and the events that followed, like Jan 6th, the espionage trial and maybe the Georgia trial. Who doesn’t love a good courtroom drama along with the back story? We’re seeing more of that now with Watergate.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> > [@Cardigan](#):
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> > It’s a shame that come trial time we’ll never get to see Trump take the stand.
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> I think that the lack of audio/video coverage of the trial is going to go a long way towards Americans being unmoved by the proceeding.

Is there any case to be made to televise the trial due to the immense public interest? Is it law that they are not televised or is it just policy?

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I’m sure millions would watch it if it were televised, but I can’t see that happening in Federal Court. This case already has enough carnival atmosphere associated with it.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/5780 "2023-06-13T19:47:15Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> And the TMZ headline:

So, many posters here have got their wish.

Now, for the trial and conviction.

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