# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/581 "2022-08-12T01:13:38Z")
What’s the dumbest possible explanation for Trump having taken nuclear secrets with him? Not to sell them, but just to show them off and make him look like a big shot. “Look at these nuclear secrets I got to keep 'cause I was president.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/582 "2022-08-12T01:21:38Z")
I’m still betting on the Secret Service overhearing/seeing something at that Saudi golf tournament 2, 3 weeks ago. Very few people would have the credibility to move a federal court like this, a Secret Service agent definitely qualifies. Also, don’t forget, the Saudis gave Jared $2 billion. Perhaps the golf tournament was them coming to collect? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/583 "2022-08-12T01:22:05Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What’s the dumbest possible explanation for Trump having taken nuclear secrets with him? Not to sell them, Someone told him he wasn’t allowed to take them, and so he took them? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/584 "2022-08-12T01:30:50Z")
> [@Ssounder](#): > > Turning to Bruce Hornsby I think you mean Don Henley. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/585 "2022-08-12T01:33:18Z")
Hornsby, Henley, that’s just the way it is with the boys of summer. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/586 "2022-08-12T01:36:02Z")
Something to lighten up the mood - but actually right on point. (wild satire) > **[The Shovel’s view on the Donald Trump FBI raid](https://www.theshovel.com.au/2022/08/10/the-shovels-view-on-the-fbis-raid-on-donald-trumps-home/)** > > We're no fans of Donald Trump. But the FBI's raid on the home of a former president sets a dangerous precedent. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/587 "2022-08-12T01:36:19Z")
No you’re right, and I originally typed Don Henley, but the 1st lyric on Bing was attributed to Bruce. Lazy on my part. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/588 "2022-08-12T01:38:07Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Something happened that stepped up the urgency, and made them believe they needed to act. I suppose the revelation from a CI that a particular document or set of documents related to nuclear weapons were present is an answer that makes sense. Or (and I’m in hopeful, hopeful territory here), there was verified intelligence that a transfer of these documents by Trump to bad actors was impending. ---
**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/589 "2022-08-12T01:38:44Z")
Although it appears on a Don Henley solo album, The End Of The Innocence was co-written by Henley and Hornsby (and Hornsby plays piano on it). > **[The End of the Innocence (song)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_the_Innocence_(song))** > > "The End of the Innocence" is the lead single and title track from Don Henley's third solo studio album of the same name, released in 1989. Henley co-wrote and co-produced the song with Bruce Hornsby, who also performed piano; both artists perform the song live in their respective concerts. The single peaked at number eight on the US Billboard Hot 100, becoming his fifth solo top-10 hit on the chart. "The End of the Innocence" also became his fourth number-one single on the Album Rock Tracks char... ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/590 "2022-08-12T01:42:49Z")
Still an appropriate song under these dire circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/591 "2022-08-12T01:47:36Z")
Although its possible, I think it unlikely that it is actual technical nuclear weapons specs. . Trump is unlikely to have easy access to technical bomb information, sure he’s president so he could request it, but that is going to raise suspicions as to why he needs it, it isn’t as if he could possibly understand them. Documents about how to give missile launch orders, and strategic nuclear defense plans on the other hand would be something he could easily lay his hands on. As to his plans regarding the documents, it would definitely be within his character to hold them purely for bragging rights. (Hey babe, want to come into my office and see the most top secret national plans?) But if he did get a good offer for them why not? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/592 "2022-08-12T01:47:49Z")
What’s scary is that what is happening to Trump could happen to any of us selling nuclear secrets. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/593 "2022-08-12T01:49:42Z")
What’s scary is that he was stupid enough to not know that our military keeps a close watch on documents of that nature. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/594 "2022-08-12T01:50:32Z")
What’s scarier is that it’s taken this long for this to be dealt with… ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/595 "2022-08-12T01:56:15Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > What’s scary is that what is happening to Trump could happen to any of us selling nuclear secrets. Chilling. As smithsb’s linked article points out, > [@](#): > > Is that the world we want to live in? Where anyone accused of insurrection can be subject to questioning from law enforcement officers? > > It’s a slippery slope. Before we know it, regular citizens accused of defrauding the government, concealing evidence, manipulating financial documents, tampering with witnesses or perverting the course of justice will also be held to account. […] > > As we made clear earlier, we’re certainly not Trump supporters. But in today’s partisan world, it would be easy to fall into the trap of cheering on the FBI’s actions, without taking a step back to look at the bigger picture. If Trump goes to jail, it opens the door for every lying, corrupt, perverted piece of shit to go to jail too. Is that what we want? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/596 "2022-08-12T01:58:26Z")
From the Washington Post article: > They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or **some other nation.** Bolding mine. I wonder if Trump’s Saudi buddies who are in business with him for the LIV golf crap-ola would be at all interested in information about Israel’s nuclear program? Possibly they’d be willing to pay cash for this. Or perhaps just another [$2 billion “investment.” in Trump family scams.](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jared-kushner-affinity-partners-saudi-arabia) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/597 "2022-08-12T01:58:38Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > If Trump goes to jail, it opens the door for every lying, corrupt, perverted piece of shit to go to jail too. Is that what we want? I’d like that fine. And trump isn’t the victim of a casual accusation. Of course, social media can ruin someone with mere “casual accusations.” But that’s not what’s happening to trump. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/598 "2022-08-12T01:59:34Z")
(Pssst: it’s sarcasm.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/599 "2022-08-12T02:02:44Z")
😳 Too literal-minded for my own good. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/600 "2022-08-12T02:03:11Z")
“_Documents about how to give missile launch orders, and strategic nuclear defense plans on the other hand would be something he could easily lay his hands on_” This. The most serious offense. MAD and special weapons have protected us for decades from bad guys. -Even bad guys with similar capability. Any edge that they get has the potential to change the equation. It’s risk analysis. Having said that, make no mistake. I would have fulfilled my duty if called. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=31)