# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> He can’t even distinguish between “there” and “their”

No way is he paying for extra words when they all sound the same anyways!

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I’m struck by how fixated he is on “Boxes” “Boxes” “Boxes”.

Here’s how his [Hollywood Star of Fame](https://twitter.com/harryjsisson/status/1671909508237385728?s=20) looks like. Its’ a Twitter link with photo showing boxes, toilets, crime scene on his Hollywood Star. Wish I knew how to upload the picture, or give a preview.

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Perhaps someone should re-write that song:
> 
> “Little boxes  
> In the bathroom…”

I tried to get the cadence (approximately) right:

_Little boxes in the bathroom_  
_Little boxes made of ticky tacky_  
_Little boxes in the bathroom_  
_Little boxes all the same._

_And the secrets in the boxes_  
_All were stolen in the night_  
_He never should have had them_  
_But Trump kept them just the same._

_And there’s lawyers and more lawyers_  
_And they’re lying for their pay_  
_And they’re all made out of ticky tacky_  
_And they all look just the same._

_And they all fight with each other_  
_And they all make judges mad_  
_And they all are getting fired_  
_And none are getting paid._

_Little boxes in a building_  
_Little boxes made of stone_  
_Little boxes holding felons_  
_And the orange one yells the most._

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6364 "2023-06-22T16:58:09Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Perhaps someone should re-write that song:
> 
> “Little boxes  
> In the bathroom…”

For the past week I’ve been working on a rewrite of Warren Zevon’s “Lawyers Guns and Money” but having a hard time getting it to come together.

_I went home with some papers  
The way I always do  
How was I to know  
The Archives wanted them too_

There is a line about boxes in the bathtub in there somewhere…

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6365 "2023-06-22T17:03:51Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> There is a line about boxes in the bathtub in there somewhere…

And you can probably leave the “Russians” line as is 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6366 "2023-06-22T17:15:20Z")

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The thing is, LG&M is just four short verses. The Trumpy version could easily be twice that long.

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> My legal knowledge is from _My Cousin Vinny_.

If I correctly remember what I read once, the law in MCV was surprisingly accurate.

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> He can’t even distinguish between “there” and “their”.

I’m not going to throw rocks on that one. I almost just did that in a post in another thread 😁.

Everything else, on the other hand…

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I was going to go with:

_Little boxes in the bathroom_  
_Little boxes filled with sneaky secrets_  
_Little boxes in the ballroom_  
_Little boxes all the same_  
_There’s a brown one and a white one_  
_And a blue one and a yellow one_  
_And they’re all filled up with sneaky secrets_  
_And they all look just the same_

_And the orange little babyman_  
_Went back to his Mar-A-Lago club_  
_Where he played with all his boxes_  
_And he made up lots of games_  
_Some he hid and some he left out_  
_And some he sold to enemies_  
_And they’re all filled up with sneaky secrets_  
_But he says he’s not to blame._

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> For the past week I’ve been working on a rewrite of Warren Zevon’s “Lawyers Guns and Money” but having a hard time getting it to come together.

I’ve been using that for Kandiss Taylor.

_SEND JESUS, GUNS AND BABIES…_

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6370 "2023-06-22T18:42:19Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> There is a line about boxes in the bathtub in there somewhere…

I keep thinking of “[Mirror in the Bathroom](https://genius.com/The-beat-mirror-in-the-bathroom-lyrics)”. Hell, there’s one stanza we’d hardly have to re-write at all…

Boxes in the bathroom, please take free  
The door’s not locked, just walk in, see?  
Can I take you to a ballroom that’s even less stable?  
You can indict yourself while you are cheating

Boxes in the bathroom, I just can’t stop it  
Every Saturday, you see me jurisdiction shopping  
Find no interest in the laws and rules  
Just ten thousand justifications of my own sweet self  
Self, self, self, self

…

Boxes in the bathroom, recompense  
For all my crimes of self-defense  
Cures you whisper make no sense  
Drift gently into mental illness

See what I mean about that last part? Changed one word, fits perfectly.

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Sidewalk star.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzPQ1d1XoAEqzr4?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzPQ1d1XoAEqzr4?format=jpg&name=medium)

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That is wonderful.

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> See what I mean about that last part? Changed one word, fits perfectly.

Very, very well done. I particularly enjoyed your “jurisdiction shopping” rhyme.

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> At this point I’m wondering if it’s even possible for Nauta to escape from Trump.

I keep wondering if Nauta (or anyone else) flips, if the DOJ would offer him some type of protective custody. Not because his life would be in danger (thought it might), but because they know how manipulative trump can be.

It doesn’t seem like an awful idea to get him a room in a hotel a few cities away so that trump can’t convince him to change his mind.

> [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#):
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> That article says the first batch of evidence against him has been given to him - is it usual procedure to turn over evidence against someone TO that person?

From that court order earlier:

> Defendants shall only have access to Discovery Materials under the direct supervision of Defense Counsel or a member of Defense Counsel’s staff. Defendants shall not retain copies of Discovery Material. Defendants may take notes regarding Discovery Materials, but such notes shall be stored securely by Defense Counsel or  
> a member of Defense Counsel’s staff in the same manner as the Discovery Materials.

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Thank you!

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I keep wondering if Nauta (or anyone else) flips, if the DOJ would offer him some type of protective custody.

Nauta is in an odd situation since he half-helped the FBI/DOJ by sitting for an interview and giving grand jury testimony. I’m not clear if he voluntarily turned over his cell phone, but he certainly stopped helping at some point or I don’t think he would be a Defendant. My point is, I don’t know if he can flip anymore. I mean he can for moral reasons, but I don’t know how much it would help him or how much DOJ even needs him…if this were a normal case at least.

btw, Nauta is not able to receive the discovery docs since he does not have a FL licensed attorney/has not been arraigned. So he hasn’t seen what’s in there and he doesn’t know what Trump knows…just Trump’s rage on Truth Social to what was in the discovery materials. Gulp.

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👏🏽 A thing of beauty.

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> leaving these types of documents in your bathtub

This ranks very high in the list of “phrases I never thought I would hear”. This entire shameful case is weirder than any fiction anyone could concoct.

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> [@CoolHandCox](#):
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> Nauta is not able to receive the discovery docs since he does not have a FL licensed attorney/has not been arraigned.

Still? What’s up with that? I thought Trumpy was paying his legal bills, and should be getting him a lawyer pronto. What’s wrong with the lawyer(s) that Trump had for his arraignment?

Surely Nauta can’t just play the “I don’t have a lawyer card” forever and just never get arraigned?

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > My legal knowledge is from _My Cousin Vinny_.
> 
> If I correctly remember what I read once, the law in MCV was surprisingly accurate.

The YouTube Legal Eagle said this, as well.

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