# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 327
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6521 "2023-06-27T12:49:10Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I’m pretty sure I read in a military biography (can’t remember which) that there are departments of people whose job it is to game out even the most unlikely scenarios. It’s been a lot of years so my memory is vague, but I think the example given was, “Not that we’re ever going to roll tanks into Montreal, but if we _had_ to, this is what it might look like.” Somebody in Quebec might be upset to learn this and conclude that the US “has a plan” to invade them, but that’s not really what it means at all. There are drawers and drawers full of these scenarios, on hand and ready for reference, just in case. And we assume everybody else is doing the same, and therefore this is all unremarkable. Sounds like you’re referring to ‘War Plan Red’. It’s a typical example of what military planners around the globe routinely do to devise contingencies to respond to both likely and unlikely events. [War Plan Red - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red#:~:text=The%20idea%20was%20that%20US,Canadians%20from%20their%20British%20allies.) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6522 "2023-06-27T12:55:47Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Somebody in Quebec might be upset to learn this and conclude that the US “has a plan” to invade them, but that’s not really what it means at all. There are drawers and drawers full of these scenarios, on hand and ready for reference, just in case. And we assume everybody else is doing the same,… _Everybody_ is planning to invade Quebec? I better change my vacation plans. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6523 "2023-06-27T13:29:29Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Why would that publisher go to Mara Lardo in the first place? [nitpick] This recording was made at Trump’s Bedminster, New Jersey property. I only raise this because NJ is a “one party consent” state (meaning: the recording would have been legal _even if_ Trump wasn’t aware that he was being recorded) while Florida is an “all party consent” state. [/nitpick] > **[One-Party Consent States - Updated 2022 - Recording Law](https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/one-party-consent-states/)** > > Updated January 3rd, 2022. A list of all one-party consent states with brief overviews of the audio and video recording laws of each state. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6524 "2023-06-27T13:31:54Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I’m pretty sure I read in a military biography (can’t remember which) that there are departments of people whose job it is to game out even the most unlikely scenarios. It’s been a lot of years so my memory is vague, but I think the example given was, “Not that we’re ever going to roll tanks into Montreal, but if we _had_ to, this is what it might look like.” When I was in graduate school, one of my projects was to plan out the opening of a new museum. What kind of museum is it? What’s the mission statement? Where do we secure funding? What’s our policy on exhibits and artifacts? Who is our target audience? While I wouldn’t argue I’m good at it, if someone asked me to create a museum from scratch I’d at least have some idea of what I was doing. It seems to me that planning an invasion is complicated, and you want commanders to have some practice before having to do the real thing. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6525 "2023-06-27T13:33:34Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > [nitpick] > This recording was made at Trump’s Bedminster, New Jersey property. D’oh! I knew that. I didn’t realize the Meadows book’s been out a while. It would be interesting to compare the book version of events with whatever Jack digs up. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6526 "2023-06-27T13:35:39Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Do we have any idea what “case” he was babbling about? I believe he is referring to the “Gen. Milley is a poopy-head case” that Trump was trying in the media. It also bears mentioning that the only reason Trump is making this case in the first place is because he heard Milley was talking some shit about him, which requires this narrative to put Trump in place as the defender of Iran. The evil military, led by the evil Gen. Milley wanted to invade Iran and Trump was the only adult in the room capable of stopping them. Sure, and while we’re at it can I get a price quote on that bridge in Brooklyn? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6527 "2023-06-27T13:40:58Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > _Everybody_ is planning to invade Quebec? I better change my vacation plans. To be totally fair, the US has invaded Quebec before. But never took it. So, one could imagine they’d like to actually win the next time and plan accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6528 "2023-06-27T14:27:40Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > To be totally fair, the US has invaded Quebec before. But never took it. > > So, one could imagine they’d like to actually win the next time and plan accordingly. The military is often accused of re-fighting the last war. In this case, the War of 1812. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6529 "2023-06-27T14:50:36Z")
I’d enjoy working out the possible permutations and contingencies. I’ve liked helping to set up crisis enactments at work. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6530 "2023-06-27T14:51:57Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I’ve liked helping to set up crisis enactments at work. I’ve enjoyed initiating crises at work. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6531 "2023-06-27T14:55:41Z")
My hero. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6532 "2023-06-27T15:25:47Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I believe he is referring to the “Gen. Milley is a poopy-head case” that Trump was trying in the media. Just curious: has the current SCOTUS taken a formal stand on poopy-heads? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6533 "2023-06-27T15:38:12Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@susan](#): > > > > I’ve liked helping to set up crisis enactments at work. > > I’ve enjoyed initiating crises at work. - I hope that’s part of your job description. 'Cause that would be _awesome!_ ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6534 "2023-06-27T15:39:42Z")
If I needed a CV anymore, I’d surely list it as a skill. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6535 "2023-06-27T17:08:35Z")
The American Revolution, too. But that wasn’t the most recent war > **[Benedict Arnold's expedition to Quebec](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold%27s_expedition_to_Quebec)** > > In September 1775, early in the American Revolutionary War, Colonel Benedict Arnold led a force of 1,100 Continental Army troops on an expedition from Cambridge in the Province of Massachusetts Bay to the gates of Quebec City. The expedition was part of a two-pronged invasion of the British Province of Quebec, and passed through the wilderness of what is now Maine. The other expedition invaded Quebec from Lake Champlain, led by Richard Montgomery. > Unanticipated problems beset the expedition as s... ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6536 "2023-06-27T19:58:37Z")
As to the leaked audio recording, some of the talking heads at Fox News think trump himself leaked the audio because he thinks it exonerates him. That’s worth thinking about. Of course he’s raising a ruckus on his pretend social media platform that Jack Smith, or the “Bidden” regime, or the corrupt FBI and DOJ are behind the leak, and because of that the whole trial should be thrown out. Yeah, he probably did it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6537 "2023-06-27T20:02:02Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > the “Bidden” regime, or the corrupt FBI and DOJ are behind the leak, So if he is convicted and goes to jail, will he be Biden his time? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6538 "2023-06-27T21:36:48Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > That recording is… even worse than what anyone could imagine. Trump posted on Truth that the tape totally exonerates him. He is just so brazen in the way he always publicly states that everyone should read a transcript or listen to a tape, which of course totally _does not_ exonerate him, because he knows that his fans won’t do it. And they won’t because why would he tell them to read or listen to something that was incriminating. He is not hiding anything - TOTAL EXONERATION! Is that a typical conman strategy or is he the first to pull that off? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6539 "2023-06-27T21:44:48Z")
Same thing with the Mueller report. Total exoneration, even though it did the opposite. And the Presidential Records Act does the opposite of what Trump claims. He gets away with it because his supporters are as dumb as boxes of roxes. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6540 "2023-06-27T21:48:54Z")
They don’t read the Constitution. They don’t read the Transcripts (of the call with Zelenskyy). They don’t read the Mueller Report. They don’t read the Durham Report. They don’t read Jack Smith’s 37-count Indictment. I’m not convinced they even read. They don’t watch the January 6 Committee Investigative Hearings. They don’t watch Durham’s Congressional testimony. They don’t wait to see what evidence Alvin Bragg might have. They don’t look elsewhere to learn about the revelations from the Dominion lawsuit. Instead, they line up and get empty talking points as though they were communion wafers at Church, and then they spend all day regurgitating them, safe in the knowledge that their fellow MAGA types will smile vapidly, and that they can dismiss the substantive corrections of others as “FAKE NEWS” or “RINOs.” None so blind as those who will not see. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=326) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=328)