# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 328
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6541 "2023-06-27T22:00:02Z")
I call it “causal Friday.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6542 "2023-06-27T23:15:12Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’ve known a few reporters and press photographers in my day, and as one reporter said, “Any time you hear an interviewee say, ‘This is off the record,’ you pay careful attention, because typically, whatever they say, show, or demonstrate should be on the record. Which is where you put it.” And much to Trump’s dismay, saying “This is off the record” doesn’t make it off the record any more than thinking “This is declassified” makes it declassified. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6543 "2023-06-27T23:21:11Z")
Also, AIUI, the recording was the work of one of Trump’s two staffers present at the meeting, so even if “off the record” had been acknowledged and honored by the Meadows’ (auto)biographers, it wasn’t going to be ignored by the recording that he _de facto_ sanctioned. Uh. Whoops! ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6544 "2023-06-27T23:31:12Z")
Pro tip: if you are about to say something that you want off the record, you should probably reach over and turn off the tape recorder. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6545 "2023-06-28T02:53:13Z")
Or better still… [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Wf8Vl0ORBaE/hqdefault.jpg "Why you should watch The West Wing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf8Vl0ORBaE) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6546 "2023-06-28T03:06:29Z")
Did I say I had plans? I meant that I had…um…building plans? Yeah, _building_ plans! That’s the ticket! > **['Building plans': Trump has a new excuse for what he was really showing...](https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-building-plans/)** > > Former President Donald Trump is now claiming that his boasts about holding highly classified national defense information while talking to patrons at his Bedminster golf club in New Jersey were just "bravado" — and all he really had in his hand were... ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6547 "2023-06-28T03:09:00Z")
The problem with, “I was lying”, as a defense is of course that it just makes the jury ask why he shouldn’t be lying now, to them, if it’s his habit to lie about things. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6548 "2023-06-28T03:11:34Z")
I think the defence is, ‘Yeah, I waved “classified” documents around. But I wouldn’t have done that if they were really classified. So my waving classified documents around, and saying explicitly that they were classified, _proves_ that I didn’t do anything wrong!’ ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6549 "2023-06-28T04:06:03Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Pro tip: if you are about to say something that you want off the record, you should probably reach over and turn off the tape recorder. It’s all in how you syllabize it. He was off the rec-cord, but not off the re-cord. D’oh! ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6550 "2023-06-28T04:31:30Z")
One of my favorite all time scenes from my favorite all time show. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6551 "2023-06-28T08:41:45Z")
Fantastic show. What it looks like when people who **care** about the government **run** the government. I couldn’t watch it again these days. Too painful. I’d cry through every episode. (I did during a few the first time-- like when Toby arranges the burial of the homeless veteran… ) ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6552 "2023-06-28T09:29:08Z")
He’s getting closer and closer to the Big Lebowski defense. Uh, papers. You know, just papers. Uh, you know, uh, my papers. Business papers. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6553 "2023-06-28T12:43:01Z")
Maybe in trump’s mind (BWA-ha-ha-ha, excuse the expression) when he **“waved”** the papers around, that served to **“waive”** the confidentiality of those papers? ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6554 "2023-06-28T12:50:17Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > he **“waved”** the papers around, that served to **“waive”** He didn’t want to waive confidentiality, he was “bidden” to ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6555 "2023-06-28T13:38:27Z")
“Damn! That President Bid(d)en sticks his nose in everywhere it’s not wanted!” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6556 "2023-06-28T14:06:12Z")
“Biden waves papers all the time! Ok, he really just holds them up after signing them, but it’s the same thing!” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6557 "2023-06-28T15:55:05Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > He’s getting closer and closer to the Big Lebowski defense. “The FBI took my boxes! They tied the whole bathroom together!” ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6558 "2023-06-28T17:16:23Z")
Theoretically speaking, if I didn’t show up for my own arraignment, what might the judge do to me? This is completely theoretical of course. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6559 "2023-06-28T17:56:50Z")
In most cases he would issue a [bench warrant](https://www.davidmckenzielawfirm.com/faqs/what-does-a-bench-warrant-mean/). Although one time I didn’t show up and the judge actually called me and asked why I wasn’t there. I told him that my lawyer said I didn’t need to appear. He told me to get to the court right away or he would issue an arrest warrant. I of course complied. He called my lawyer as well and I can only imagine what he said to them, but he was there when I got there and sweating. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6560 "2023-06-29T05:14:38Z")
Trump doesn’t do things wrong. He does things right. He’s a legitimate person. > **[Trump dismisses latest documents recording: ‘I’m a legitimate person’](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4070036-trump-dismisses-latest-documents-recording-im-a-legitimate-person/)** > > Former President Trump on Tuesday brushed aside an audio recording that appeared to capture him discussing classified materials with guests at his New Jersey club in 2021, an incident at the center… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=327) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=329)