# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/641 "2022-08-12T11:58:06Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > a mud monster president. Well said. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/642 "2022-08-12T12:04:07Z")
> [@Ssounder](#): > > The chain of custody could theoretically be compromised by those that want to break the system. > The way the orders come down from POTUS all the way to the launch crew. Links can be severed by bad actors that understand the system. This includes domestic threats because some veterans have joined the cult. > Am I getting through here? > This has the potential to be a serious national emergency. Yes. Good points. Knowing HOW something critical like this works can be almost as dangerous as specific, still-active codes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/643 "2022-08-12T12:32:41Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump just announced he isn’t going to fight it. Which is just as well as it isn’t his decision and he would likely be ruled against by a judge who likely knows their ruling as I type this. He’s already stated he is using the “they set me up by planting evidence” defense. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/644 "2022-08-12T12:55:12Z")
how is this man not arrested at this point??! seriously! this can not end with “we got the documents, all better now”. if he is truly a private citizen subject to the rule of law, there needs to be an arrest or two or more. how did he get the documents? who packed the boxes? how many people handled this? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/645 "2022-08-12T12:58:09Z")
His argument will be that there was no criminal intent, that he just kept them for his Presidential Library for the American people to see how loved he was by other world leaders. Maybe his love letters from Kim Jung-un were in one of those boxes and a copy of the Russian girls peeing on him signed by off by his good buddy. That may fly with a hand slap for the gifts he grifted, but documents related to defense of the nation definitely not. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/646 "2022-08-12T12:59:00Z")
It’s my understanding this is essentially a RICO case they’re building, and those take years and years before anyone is even considered being arrested. They basically want to have their entire case locked down before any handcuffs are broken out. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/647 "2022-08-12T13:01:17Z")
Trump, in his own way, confessed to having nuclear weapons information. This is a tweet which contains Trump’s _Truth Social_ statement: > ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/648 "2022-08-12T13:01:35Z")
I’d like to know if there’s a common theme that links these boxes. IOW, why these particular boxes? What the hell did he even want them for? It’s not as though the semi-literate pustule was ever going read them. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/649 "2022-08-12T13:25:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump, in his own way, confessed to having nuclear weapons information. This is a tweet which contains Trump’s _Truth Social_ statement: Even more than that, why is he so desperately trying to figure out who leaked the information if the evidence is planted? > [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I’d like to know if there’s a common theme that links these boxes. IOW, why these particular boxes? What the hell did he even want them for? It’s not as though the semi-literate pustule was ever going read them. To be fair, you don’t to be able to read/understand nuclear information to know it’s valuable to foreign countries. Just like I might not understand the alarm schematics for the bank I work at to know I could probably sell them to a friend of mine that robs banks. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/650 "2022-08-12T13:27:30Z")
Trump had something that other people wanted, so he kept it. He may not have even known what was in the boxes, but keeping them could give him leverage in the future. Don’t give anything away for free; I doubt it’s any more complicated than that. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/651 "2022-08-12T13:27:51Z")
Please avoid posting large segments of copyrighted material. What you had far exceeded fair use. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/652 "2022-08-12T13:28:09Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > This is the ennnd, of the innocence . . . What innocence is being ended? The idea that the president is a good person with the best interests of the nation at heart? Where have you been since Nov. 9, 2016? Or is the idea that now Trump’s supporters will finally see the truth about their hero? I wouldn’t hold your breath on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/653 "2022-08-12T13:28:24Z")
Isn’t everybody just fantasizing about him selling this stuff? I think that might be even beyond him. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/654 "2022-08-12T13:28:49Z")
And here we still weren’t absolutely certain that this was about nuclear materials . . . thanks for clearing that up Donnie! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/655 "2022-08-12T13:30:48Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > Now enough serious people are involved in this to discourage me from honestly thinking that is actually the case, but the word nuclear tends have a very specific connotation when paired with national security. Actually, many US Naval ships have nuclear power plants and I am quite sure nefarious foreign actors would like to know more about that nearly as much as they would like the kind of atomic weapons information the intelligence agencies were likely to entrust to Trump. And that’s one of the things that a lot of people might think, “Hey, that’s not so bad…” Except that the US Navy has the best record of nuclear safety in the world. Their power plants and their operating procedures are better than anything anyone else has, and it’s their nuclear power plants that allows them to operate all over the world. China for one would looooove to get their hands on anything related to the Navy’s nuclear program, as this would likely be a big step up in their capabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/656 "2022-08-12T13:31:23Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > _Nothing_ will short circuit a trial like conflicting testimony to different investigators. Defense attorneys live for stuff like that. Really? My take on this is different, namely that a witness has committed perjury during one of those investigative interviews, and that is therefore good material for prosecutors to work with. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/657 "2022-08-12T13:32:59Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Trump had something that other people wanted, so he kept it. He may not have even known what was in the boxes, but keeping them could give him leverage in the future. Don’t give anything away for free; I doubt it’s any more complicated than that. This is exactly what I’ve been thinking. Leverage is power. TFG can get money from his rubes, but he can only get power from and through other powerful people. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/658 "2022-08-12T13:33:44Z")
The MAGAts need to get their narratives straight. If there was a rat, it means there was something there to rat on. That would seem to conflict with the “planted it” scenario. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/659 "2022-08-12T13:35:05Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Isn’t everybody just fantasizing about him selling this stuff? I think that might be even beyond him. Legitimately: why? What has Trump done to earn this trust? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/660 "2022-08-12T13:35:15Z")
Conflicting narratives have not yet been a deal breaker among that set, and it’s been 6 or 7 years now. I don’t see why they need to change now [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=34)