# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 346
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6901 "2023-07-19T12:41:45Z")
As long as the fish tastes fine, it doesn’t matter how many eyes it had, does it? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6902 "2023-07-19T12:51:40Z")
This is who the Republicans have always been, it is just that the mask has completely come off. They really are the party of evil. I know the term fascist has been way overused in the past couple of decades (and I knew it would come back to haunt the left for calling everyone a fascist), but the current day Republicans are at a minimum early stage fascist. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6903 "2023-07-19T13:42:12Z")
> [@Mops](#): > > A tangent to the boxes of secret papers: apparently Israeli antiquities loaned to the White House for a brief exhibition in 2019 also have wound up at Mar-A-Lago. He’s just emulating his buddy Vlad, proud possessor of a Superbowl ring. “People give me stuff”. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6904 "2023-07-19T15:14:54Z")
It’s really easy to explain. Since The Donald was and is the very embodiment of the USofA, any gift — and a loan is really kind of a gift, right? — given to the country is really a gift to him. So he can do with it whatever he wants. If there was any ambiguity, he probably had a standing order, like the one which stated that any document taken to the Residence was automatically declassified, clarifying the situation. Damn liberals, ascribing impure motivations to something well within his prerogatives as ~~Emperor~~ President. ---
**Author:** ![knavette57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knavette57/32/3871_2.png) [@knavette57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knavette57)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6905 "2023-07-20T18:01:15Z")
I listened to an interview with Alyssa Farah, who commented that the GOP needs the money that Trump can fundraise, so they continue to support him. Unsure of the truth of this, but it makes sense. We seriously need reform in campaign contributions. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6906 "2023-07-21T13:52:46Z")
may 20th 2024 is the date set for the mar a lago trial. it appears that she went half way between what both sides requested. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6907 "2023-07-21T14:05:42Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > may 20th 2024 Cue a motion, “We can’t have a trial that close to Memorial Day! It will seriously interfere with our BBQ plans!” ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6908 "2023-07-21T14:50:37Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “We can’t have a trial that close to Memorial Day! It will seriously interfere with our BBQ plans!” Too bad it’s not a few weeks later. I’d have love to see how they would try to use their deep respect for the traditions of Juneteenth as an excuse to kick the can down the road even further. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6909 "2023-07-21T14:50:39Z")
A May trial works for me. I bet it works for Jack Smith as well. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6910 "2023-07-21T14:55:03Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > may 20th 2024 is the date set for the mar a lago trial. It’s a reasonable date, let’s just hope she sticks with it. I could see a minor delay or two and it ends up closer to the end of summer, but there’s no way it should be pushed back past November. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6911 "2023-07-21T14:57:53Z")
After the primaries but before the election. Or so it is currently scheduled. I’m trying to decide if i think this is good. I wasn’t really expecting Cannon to agree with December, so I’m not surprised about that, but I figured she’d go to a February-March time frame that might result in an actual trial in the summer after all the shenanigans played out. Late May? Do they really need almost a year to get through discovery? Then there will be weeks of jury selection and motions to delay… there’s every possibility that this trial won’t actually begin in earnest until the election or later. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6912 "2023-07-21T15:02:24Z")
Here is the May 20, 2024 trail date [Order](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.83.0.pdf). It sets out all the CIPA pre-trial dates. Next hearing is on Aug 25, 2023. Generally, there’s nothing unreasonable in here, although I/others could pick some things to quibble over. It also confirms trial will be held in Fort Pierce (not Miami). ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6913 "2023-07-21T15:05:45Z")
I’ve never executed a successful sports metaphor in my entire life. To continue that unbroken streak … ISTM that Cannon **[laid it up](https://www.liveabout.com/lay-up-shot-1564058)** here, pushing it as far as she thought she reasonably could without getting spanked, but far enough that more motions for delay _could_ inure to Trump’s estimable benefit. Do I think 5/20/24 is an inherently bad date? No. But I’d be disturbed to see it slide too awfully much further. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6914 "2023-07-21T15:11:20Z")
I’m disgusted. A May 20 start date – almost two years after the raid! – means Trump will be the GOP nominee before the trial even starts, so even if we get a verdict before November, we could very well still be in the sentencing phase on election day. And the (IMO more serious) Jan. 6 charges haven’t even been handed down yet. It’s starting to look like the methodical approach taken by the DOJ and Smith, which may have seemed necessary to secure solid charges, will backfire. Summer and fall '24 will be an absolute shitshow. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6915 "2023-07-21T15:13:56Z")
I can imagine the con man threw Cannon a biscuit, saying “who’s a good girl? YOU’RE a good girl!” By this time he we certainly be the presumptive nominee. Better get the 1/6 indictment in a DC court ASAP so that a real judge can hopefully set an earlier data for that trial. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6916 "2023-07-21T15:15:41Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > I’m disgusted. A May 20 start date – almost two years after the raid! – means Trump will be the GOP nominee before the trial even starts Yeah. I understand. Personally, I don’t think the GOP Primary voters are likely to be swayed by much that comes from this trial (even if it got underway _before_ the Primaries). I view his nomination as all but a foregone conclusion. My larger wish is that he’s either imprisoned before, or slaughtered in, the General Election. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6917 "2023-07-21T15:16:05Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > A May 20 start date – almost two years after the raid! – means Trump will be the GOP nominee before the trial even starts, so even if we get a verdict before November, we could very well still be in the sentencing phase on election day. I think the trial should have been in December. But, if the trial starts on May 20th, we’ll have a verdict by July 1 at the latest (and more likely June 20th). This isn’'t going to drag on once they start. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6918 "2023-07-21T15:18:00Z")
Yes, the trial should progress relatively swiftly; Jack Smith will have a finely honed case to present. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6919 "2023-07-21T15:19:29Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Personally, I don’t think the GOP Primary voters are likely to be swayed by much that comes from this trial (even if it got underway _before_ the Primaries). > > I view his nomination as all but a foregone conclusion. Agreed. But I would have preferred purple state undecideds to see the GOP nominate _a convicted felon_ than someone who could still theoretically be found not guilty. I mean, what could better drive home the criminality of the GOP than that? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/6920 "2023-07-21T15:22:25Z")
This still leaves _some_ of the **[swing states’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_state)** Primaries open to being informed by the verdict: > **[2024 Statewide Primary Calendar - 270toWin](https://www.270towin.com/2024-state-primary-calendar/)** > > Primary dates for the 2024 statewide elections. State primaries will be held for Senate, House and gubernatorial races. Link to live results on primary day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=345) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=347)