# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 369
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7361 "2023-08-24T23:46:12Z")
I suspect that’s exactly it. Can’t help those who don’t want it. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7362 "2023-08-24T23:48:56Z")
I sort of suspect that she is listening to prompts… but only from the defendants. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7363 "2023-08-24T23:50:11Z")
It’s getting harder and harder to believe otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7364 "2023-08-24T23:54:58Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Now that you mention it, she may not be that amenable to prompts or helpful hints. That gives her a lot in common with Donnie. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7365 "2023-08-25T00:47:54Z")
Also wouldn’t put it past the clerks to be a gaggle of venal, brown-nosing marans. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7366 "2023-08-25T11:29:22Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Re Cannon, in my experience, some new judges catch on to the requirements of the job very quickly. Some never figure it out. Like any other profession, quality runs the gamut. > > But super basic things like omitting to include a “not guilty” option on a verdict form or forgetting to have a panel of prospective jurors sworn in before voir dire is pretty jaw-droppingly incompetent. The first paragraph is spot on. You are obviously a very astute participant/observer. Re: the 2d par, I have a couple of printed out pages which I refer to in EVERY hearing, just to make sure I say/do everything I am required to in the correct order. And I take my on-line notes in a specific way to record that I have included the important stuff. But in a very rare case, an attorney or party will interrupt or something, getting me “off script.” In such cases it is possible to lose track and skip over something very important - such as administering an oath. (Not sure if it happens even 1x/year to me.) So, yeah, in such cases OF COURSE you would be a fool if you did not appreciate your staff reminding you of what you overlooked. It is possible, however, that if you overlooked something, that is a sign that the proceeding is on its way to shitstorm territory, so you might not be your normal jovial self at the moment… ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7367 "2023-09-06T19:29:39Z")
Looks like Yuscil Taveras, the IT guy from Mar-A-Lago (and referenced in the latter parts of this thread) may have flipped: > **[Witness in Trump documents case reached deal with prosecutors, ex-attorney says](https://news.yahoo.com/witness-trump-documents-case-reached-164044988.html)** > > A key witness in the case accusing former U.S. President Donald Trump of mishandling classified documents after leaving office has entered into a deal with prosecutors to provide testimony, his former attorney said in a Wednesday court filing. The... > [@](#): > > A key witness in the case accusing former U.S. President Donald Trump of mishandling classified documents after leaving office has entered into a deal with prosecutors to provide testimony, his former attorney said in a Wednesday court filing. > > The deal was reached after U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith’s office threatened to prosecute the witness, who is the head of information technology at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Florida resort, for lying to a grand jury, the attorney, Stanley Woodward, said in the filing. Sssssssmack! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7368 "2023-09-06T22:51:22Z")
I’m getting the feeling that this case may be the most slam-dunk of them all, and may lead to bigger consequences. The evidence is pretty much overwhelming. The only unknown at this point should be the sentence. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7369 "2023-09-06T22:56:45Z")
The judge is an unknown, too, unfortunately. _shakes fist at judge_ ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7370 "2023-09-07T14:31:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m getting the feeling that this case may be the most slam-dunk of them all, and may lead to bigger consequences. The evidence is pretty much overwhelming. The only unknown at this point should be the sentence. I think the Georgia election interference is the most slam dunk. But the amount of defendants will through a wrench in the works. Shit, they should all be slam dunk cases. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7371 "2023-09-07T14:44:34Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I am _not_ a fan of YouTube Shorts. They are an attempt to imitate Tik Tok and I find them annoying. - I’ve found that if a channel is worth subscribing to, their shorts are worth watching. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7372 "2023-09-07T16:36:48Z")
Sorry if I’m late to the party, but… > **[Donald Trump might have just condemned himself with Mar-a-Lago remarks](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-presidential-records-act-classified-maralago-1825178)** > > Legal experts said Trump's claims that the Presidential Records Act means he can do whatever he wants may be used against him in the classified documents trial. > When Hewitt asked about the obstruction charges, and specifically whether Trump ordered anyone to [move boxes of documents](https://www.newsweek.com/four-key-takeaways-carlos-de-oliveira-trump-indictment-1815889) around Mar-a-Lago to prevent the government finding them, the Republican replied: "I don’t talk about anything. You know why? Because I’m allowed to do whatever I want. I come under the Presidential Records Act. Keep talking, Donnie! Say, you want some more rope? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7373 "2023-09-07T16:47:47Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Keep talking, Donnie! Say, you want some more rope? - Any more rope and the trial will have to be held over The Grand Canyon. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7374 "2023-09-07T16:56:04Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Any more rope and the trial will have to be held over The Grand Canyon. from space. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7375 "2023-09-07T17:14:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > "I don’t talk about anything. You know why? Because I’m allowed to do whatever I want. I come under the Presidential Records Act.” And his lawyers sigh and reach for the bottle of Scotch. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7376 "2023-09-07T17:16:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’ve found that if a channel is worth subscribing to, their shorts are worth watching. Not me. Some of the channels I subscribe to have great videos, and then they’ll take a 30 second clip of that video and make it a short. They might make a half dozen shorts from one video. And I’m getting notified that a channel has new videos when it doesn’t, it’s just the same crap I already saw. It’s awful. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7377 "2023-09-07T17:18:45Z")
And there’s a bit more at the end of the Newsweek article: > [@](#): > > Elsewhere during his interview with Hewitt, Trump said he will absolutely testify in the upcoming criminal trials he faces, a move that legal experts said may be a [bad move for the former president.](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-preparing-risky-move-his-own-trials-1825101) > > “I wouldn’t trust [Donald Trump](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump) within 5 feet of a witness box if I were his lawyer,” constitutional law scholar Anthony Michael Kreis told _Newsweek._ “There’s really no upshot to putting a loose cannon defendant on the stand.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7378 "2023-09-07T17:35:25Z")
Inasmuch as I would like to see Trump on the witness stand, I would agree with Mr. Kries. Given Mr. Trump’s penchant for bluff, bluster, exaggeration, and flat-out BS, there is no possible benefit to Mr. Trump’s case if he were to take the stand. As I have warned a few clients, “You have the right to remain silent. Exercise it.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7379 "2023-09-07T17:36:25Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > "I don’t talk about anything. You know why? Because I’m allowed to do whatever I want. I come under the Presidential Records Act.” The Act that says explicitly that a former president CANNOT do what he wants to do, and MUST give all records to the NARA. That Act? This bullshit might work on some rubes in North Dakota, but not really so much in a court of law. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7380 "2023-09-07T17:38:26Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > As I have warned a few clients, “You have the right to remain silent. Exercise it.” - [Ron White] “While I had the right, I didn’t have the ability.” [/RW] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=368) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=370)