# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> Poor Donnie can’t catch a break. He’s always under the microscope due to the crimes he commits.

What’s the world coming to, when the FBI can just willy-nilly investigate crimes like gathering and transmitting confidential defense information? I mean, who do they think they are, anyway? And why are judges allowed to grant search warrants? The whole thing stinks!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/722 "2022-08-12T19:00:54Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> His lawyers were lying when they said that this is purely about the government trying to get its documents back and unrelated to any criminal investigations.

I think you’re fine if you just say: “His lawyers were lying.” Pretty much covers it all.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> 793 is mentioned. Espionage. 10 years per document

What does this mean?

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/724 "2022-08-12T19:07:16Z")

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I don’t know, you tell me:

> **[Trump Hires #BillionDollarLawyer](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/trump-lawyer-georgia.html)**
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> As top allies of Donald J. Trump are called to testify in Atlanta, he has hired a high-profile local attorney best known for representing rappers.

ETA: That was yesterday, for the record.

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Any source other than Breitbart? Not going to give them the click.

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This is obvious, but wasn’t right away for me because I can get lost in the details and not even consider such things.

It took the FBI _a few hours_ to locate the documents, identify them, and get them boxed up. Compared to the Trump legal team over the last few _months_ arguing they needed more time to comply with the subpoena to locate and identify the documents and get them boxed up. Obviously BS, but just wanted that point to be clear.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/727 "2022-08-12T19:15:58Z")

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While I’m delighted at the prospect of Trump being charged with espionage, I’m also kind of disappointed that this warrant-serving business seemingly has nothing to do with the J6 investigation, since that will likely impact more GOP scumbags than just Trump and do more damage to the party going forward.

But ultimately whatever lands Trump in Leavenworth is OK by me.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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But it’s not as though any other investigation has ended due to this.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I’m also kind of disappointed that this warrant-serving business seemingly has nothing to do with the J6 investigation, since that will likely impact more GOP scumbags than just Trump and do more damage to the party going forward.

One of the charges is obstruction of justice. Who knows what that is all about?

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Not linking to it but Trump released the unredacted warrant. It’s now published on Breitbart.

I’ve read that includes the names of the FBI agents involved. I hope they’re safe.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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Man, the next few days feel like a race to see who gets arrested first: Saul Goodman or Donald Trump.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> But it’s not as though any other investigation has ended due to this.

I know, but my brain can only handle one Trump-related clusterfuck at a time.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> One of the charges is obstruction of justice. Who knows what that is all about?

IANAL (if that wasn’t obvious), but isn’t just DA-speak for “all the foot-dragging that made us get this warrant in the first place”?

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I really like the sound of this treason thing.

One would think even the most gung-maga of magats would shrink to defend that, but I’m sure they’ll find some way.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I know, but my brain can only handle one Trump-related clusterfuck at a time.

This one sounds like it has the potential to be a doozy. Maybe just hang out with this one a while.

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> One would think even the most gung-maga of magats would shrink to defend that, but I’m sure they’ll find some way.

They already think Putin is a good guy. Why would they oppose giving him the means to defeat those Nazi Ukrainians?

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Trump’s lawyer released a statement that said it was a “botched raid where they seized the President’s picture books.”

Now what could the fbi want with Trump’s collection of Dr. Seuss, Goodnight Moon and The Snowy Day? Those monsters!!

> **[Trump Mar-a-Lago search warrant, property receipt show agents found trove of...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-mar-lago-search-warrant-property-receipt-show-agents-found-trove-rcna42793)**
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> A federal judge Friday unsealed documents, previously obtained by NBC News and other news organizations, related to Monday's search at the former president's home.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Not linking to it but Trump released the unredacted warrant. It’s now published on Breitbart.

> **[The DOJ is investigating if Trump broke 3 federal laws, including the...](https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-investigating-if-trump-violated-espionage-act-classified-records-2022-8)**
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> The feds are scrutinizing if Trump broke laws that govern the handling of national security secrets when he moved top-secret records from the White House.

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> I really like the sound of this treason thing.

It won’t be treason. Treason is one of the very few constitutionally defined crimes. It requires an adversary. Whatever one might say about Saudi Arabia as a force for bullshit in the world, they are not an enemy of the US.

What Trump is facing is an investigation into _espionage._ And, thankfully, like treason, this can also result in the death penalty.

It won’t, in his case, practically speaking. But it’s part of the conversation now.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> This one sounds like it has the potential to be a doozy. Maybe just hang out with this one a while.

I gotta step back from this story. I’m getting entirely too happy.

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I like this line “Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home”

So he’s saying they didn’t have a warrant?

Regarding the coloring books, presumably he has the proof to back that up, right?

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