# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 374
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7461 "2023-09-17T20:55:47Z")
5 posts were merged into an existing topic: [DOJ/Jack Smith Investigation into Trump and Election Interference, January 6th Insurrection (Indicted 08-01-23)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doj-jack-smith-investigation-into-trump-and-election-interference-january-6th-insurrection-indicted-08-01-23/975455/1447) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7462 "2023-09-18T23:59:25Z")
The wheels on the bus go round and round…… Apparently Trump’s executive assistant, Molly Michael, is cooperating with the special counsel. She has testified that Trump used classified materials as scrap paper, using them to make notes that he would hand over to her. The materials were briefing cards given to the President for use during calls with world leaders. She also testified that when Trump found out she was being interviewed, he told her “You don’t know anything about the boxes.” 4 hrs ago > **[Trump wrote to-do lists for assistant on White House documents marked...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-wrote-lists-assistant-white-house-documents-marked/story?id=103226113)** > > A long-time assistant to former President Trump told investigators that Trump wrote to-do lists for her on documents that were marked classified, sources say. 2 hrs ago > **[Trump denies wrongdoing after report he wrote to-do lists on classified...](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-denies-wrongdoing-after-report-he-wrote-to-do-lists-classified-documents-2023-09-18/)** > > The report said that one of Trump's assistants told federal investigators he repeatedly wrote to-do lists for her on documents from the White House marked classified. ---
**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7463 "2023-09-19T00:02:57Z")
I’d love to see what Trump’s idea of a to-do list might be, but I suppose they must now be as classified as the documents they were sharpie’d onto… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7464 "2023-09-19T00:10:46Z")
> [@vbob](#): > > I’d love to see what Trump’s idea of a to-do list might be Similar to binders of women? …I’ll show myself out… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7465 "2023-09-19T00:39:09Z")
I’m thinking more like: - diet coke asap - also need KFC, double up on the mash - call, my body man, tell him, “the boom boom is in the building,” he’ll know what it means ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7466 "2023-09-19T00:42:13Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > She also testified that when Trump found out she was being interviewed, he told her “You don’t know anything about the boxes.” That’s evidence of witness tampering, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7467 "2023-09-19T00:50:36Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > That’s evidence of witness tampering, isn’t it ? Yes. And relevant to obstruction of justice. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7468 "2023-09-19T01:42:13Z")
Also relevant to the prosecution’s claim that Trump _knew_ that he was not allowed to have the material in the boxes. Otherwise, why tell his subordinate to lie? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7469 "2023-09-19T02:51:38Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > She also testified that when Trump found out she was being interviewed, he told her “You don’t know anything about the boxes.” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZzXhLp2wLQo/hqdefault.jpg "Deny Everything") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzXhLp2wLQo) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7470 "2023-09-19T03:18:37Z")
One of the things I find perplexing is trying to figure out what Trump supporters actually believe versus what they’re willing to argue about. Do they actually believe Trump’s argument that the Presidential Records Act means he could keep all those documents? And if they believe it, why do they think Trump’s lawyers don’t just file a motion to have the case dismissed based on that? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7471 "2023-09-19T03:21:47Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Do they actually believe Trump’s argument that the Presidential Records Act means he could keep all those documents? Yes. > [@Odesio](#): > > And if they believe it, why do they think Trump’s lawyers don’t just file a motion to have the case dismissed based on that? Because the Biden Crime Family™ has weaponised the DoJ, preventing them from filing the motion. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7472 "2023-09-19T09:02:57Z")
It’s a pretty tidy conspiracy theory, when you look at it. DOJ! Deep State! Mainstream Media! Liberal Agenda! You can have an excuse for anything that can’t be dismissed by logic or proof. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7473 "2023-09-19T10:38:06Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > She also testified that when Trump found out she was being interviewed, he told her “You don’t know anything about the boxes.” ![](https://media.tenor.com/zu4gNl1O9g0AAAAM/penguin-hide.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7474 "2023-09-19T12:06:55Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Do they actually believe Trump’s argument that the Presidential Records Act means he could keep all those documents? It’s dangerous to think there’s a single bloc of them Some of them are just convenient idiots. “Their” guy is clearly good and righteous and all that, and so they’re just going to accept whatever will let such an obviously good person avoid what they think is unjust punishment, even if that means what they say/believe may have to change on a minute by minute basis. Others don’t really care. They want “their” guy to win (for various reasons - he’s rich, he hates the same people, etc). So whatever accomplishes that. And still others simply want to “pwn the libs” and/or watch the world burn. And some are some combination of all of these. And others have yet different motivations. There’s a lot of common features among them (generally racists, misogynists, largely evangelicals, etc) but it’s not like they’re all identical. Yes, it’s convenient to treat supporters as a single bloc but it’s not a great idea to treat each individual member of that bloc as interchangeable. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7475 "2023-09-19T12:59:19Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > She also testified that when Trump found out she was being interviewed, he told her “You don’t know anything about the boxes.” AKA, the Schultz defence. _Edited to add: I thought about this analogy, and realized that would make Mr Trump Col. Klink. I think it still works._ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7476 "2023-09-19T13:22:37Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > _Edited to add: I thought about this analogy, and realized that would make Mr Trump Col. Klink._ Inda Klink would be nice. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7477 "2023-09-19T15:23:26Z")
:golf clap: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7478 "2023-10-05T21:09:34Z")
!!! > Putting this here as this thread seems the closest-themed one for this. Lmk, @Aspenglow ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7479 "2023-10-05T21:11:05Z")
Seems like the most appropriate thread for now. If that changes, we can start a new thread and I can move your post. Smith may choose to file this one in a different jurisdiction than Florida. Thanks for being mindful of it! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/7480 "2023-10-05T21:12:50Z")
The article does say: > [@](#): > > The potential disclosure was reported to special counsel Jack Smith’s team as they investigated Trump’s alleged hoarding of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, the sources told ABC News. The information could shed further light on Trump’s handling of sensitive government secrets. More details… > [@](#): > > According to Pratt’s account, as described by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should start buying its submarines from the United States, to which an excited Trump – “leaning” toward Pratt as if to be discreet – then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=373) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=375)