# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/761 "2022-08-12T20:21:49Z")
I don’t think they can be in his possession regardless of their classification. They’re gov docs, right? ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/762 "2022-08-12T20:22:36Z")
Sure it is. But is that really what is going to bring down Donald Trump? They better be some pretty damn explosive documents. It’s Al Capone on tax fraud, but with 40% of the country ready to vote Capone for President… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/763 "2022-08-12T20:24:15Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > But from a criminal perspective it will be hard to prove that Trump didn’t actually order them declassified. AIUI, at certain levels of classification, no president has the authority to declassify without going through a very extensive process. He did not follow these protocols, so his assertion that he “ordered them declassified” will have no effect on the stolen documents at these highest classification levels. > [@Jas09](#): > > To press charges, it seems DOJ needs more than just the documents themselves - they need some sort of document or recording or solid information that there was a nefarious purpose to keeping the documents. They have it. They need to establish Trump’s intent to mishandle. The June subpoena establishes that intent. Trump was advised that he was illegally in possession of the documents and he needed to return them. He didn’t. Boom, intent for a nefarious purpose established. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/764 "2022-08-12T20:26:39Z")
Yeah, maybe. We shall see if they press charges on this. They probably should, but I’m not convinced it will go the way many on this thread (myself included) hope. Because ultimately they already got the story out there that the President _intended_ to declassify the documents. And that he was happy to return them. And now they are returned. So are you really going to lock up a potential political opponent over that? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/765 "2022-08-12T20:29:29Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Because ultimately they already got the story out there that the President _intended_ to declassify the documents. And that he was happy to return them. And now they are returned. So are you really going to lock up a potential political opponent over that? I know you must be aware of how many guilty defendants lie to avoid prosecution. This is no different, and it’s not a basis to avoid prosecution if the case is well made. I believe it is. Like Merrick Garland keeps saying, he will proceed without fear or favor wherever the evidence leads. That’s how it should be done. I have confidence in him. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/766 "2022-08-12T20:29:35Z")
Whatever happens, I think the minimum outcome of all this is TFG being disqualified from holding federal office ever again. Even if he never sees the inside of a jail cell, all the Republican hijinx to “adjust” election results with their whole voter subversion thing, would still not result in him taking up residence in the White House ever again. While not perfect, and I am hoping for more, that would still be okay. As a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/767 "2022-08-12T20:29:51Z")
Wouldn’t they know whether he declassified them or not already during the months of trying to get them back? Or not necessarily? Also, that made me think, are the “Top Secret”, etc descriptors on the Property List just copied from what is actually typed on the documents? Meaning, at one point they were stamped Top Secret, but we’re not making a decision they still are or are not today. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/768 "2022-08-12T20:31:13Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > I think the minimum outcome of all this is TFG being disqualified from holding federal office ever again. I could totally live with that. I would not bet any of my own money on it happening, but I could happily live with that outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/769 "2022-08-12T20:31:51Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Also, that made me think, are the “Top Secret”, etc descriptors on the Property List what is listed on the documents? Meaning, at one point they were stamped Top Secret, but we’re not making a decision they still are or are not today. Yes. It is “Documents marked TS/SCI” for example. Their actual classification level would be a factual issue during any potential trial, I suppose. In my professional life I saw many documents improperly marked (either they had been downgraded, mismarked, etc). What makes a document classified isn’t the marking, it’s the content. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/770 "2022-08-12T20:32:29Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > > [@JohnT](#): > > > > 793 is mentioned. Espionage. 10 years per document > > What does this mean? I ain’t no lawyer but [there is something called US Code Title 18 [Crimes and Criminal Procedure] Part I [Crimes] Chapter 37 [Espionage and Censorship] Section 793:](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793) > [@](#): > > # 18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information > > (a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, […] or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) or under the control of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), or otherwise on behalf of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or > > (b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, […] or note of anything connected with the national defense; or > > (c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, […] or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or > > (d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, […] or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate […] the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) entitled to receive it; or > > (e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, [yeah yeah yeah…] or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates […] the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) entitled to receive it; or > > (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, […] or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer— > > Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. […] > > (h) (1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), irrespective of any provision of [State](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any[foreign government,](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-729144131-317968083&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793), as the result of such violation. […] > > (2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United [States](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-80204913-629259739&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:37:section:793) all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection. […] Emphasis added. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/771 "2022-08-12T20:33:00Z")
So then, if you know, if a document that was Top Secret, doing it the proper way, was to be declassified, would that document forever say “Top Secret” or would the declassified version have the classification mark removed? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/772 "2022-08-12T20:33:41Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > But ultimately whatever lands Trump in Leavenworth is OK by me. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - hell no we don’t want him here in Kansas. Send him to Gitmo - that’s why we left it open, right? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/773 "2022-08-12T20:36:15Z")
I would almost forgive the crime that is Gitmo if you guys manage that;) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/774 "2022-08-12T20:41:44Z")
Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/775 "2022-08-12T20:55:48Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I believe he’s allowed to say it all he wants (unless there’s a defamation issue). If he says it in court, under oath or would actually attempt to press charges or sue them, that would be different. Oh, absolutely! I mean, it’d also be different if he said them during a police interview, if he “pulled a Smollett,” so to speak. And that’s why I think he should have the opportunity to make those statements to an officer of the law. If there are actual crimes that were committed, he needs to let investigators know. Similarly, if he makes these statements under penalty of obstructing an investigation, it’ll be clear that he’s serious, not just bullshitting us like he’s been doing for the past 20 or so years. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/776 "2022-08-12T21:01:56Z")
Re: the ‘I declassified all those documents’ defense – didn’t another poster (in this thread, I _think_) tell us that there is a category or categories of documents that _cannot_ be declassified by the president, due to their extremely sensitive nature? Like, say, nuclear information? Maybe that’s why (to the best of my knowledge) he hasn’t blustered about declassifying documents as (one of) his defense(s). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/777 "2022-08-12T21:16:24Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > Re: the ‘I declassified all those documents’ defense – didn’t another poster (in this thread, I _think_) tell us that there is a category or categories of documents that _cannot_ be declassified by the president, due to their extremely sensitive nature? Like, say, nuclear information? Look at this one. > **[Not Even the President Can Declassify Nuclear Secrets](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/trump-fbi-raid-classified-nuclear-documents/671119/)** > > Fan letters and snapshots are one matter, and launch codes are another—and here the details of classification might decide just how much trouble Trump is in. The relevant portion: > The Atomic Energy Acts of 1946 and 1954 produced an even stranger category of classified knowledge. Anything related to the production or use of nuclear weapons and nuclear power is inherently classified, and Trump could utter whatever words he pleased yet still be in possession of classified material. Where are our nuclear warheads? What tricks have we developed to make sure they work? This information is “born secret” no matter who produces it. The restrictions on documents of this type are incredibly tight. In the unlikely event that Trump came up with a new way to enrich uranium, and scribbled it on a cocktail napkin poolside at Mar-a-Lago early this year, that napkin would instantly have become a classified document subject to various controls and procedures, and possibly illegal for the former president to possess. So in all likelihood, the “I declassified them!” defense won’t work, if these are the kind of secrets some are speculating they are. > [@Cervaise](#): > > It won’t be treason. Treason is one of the very few constitutionally defined crimes. It requires an adversary. Whatever one might say about Saudi Arabia as a force for bullshit in the world, they are not an enemy of the US. > > What Trump is facing is an investigation into _espionage._ And, thankfully, like treason, this can also result in the death penalty. Yes, people misremember the Rosenberg case and erroneously talk about them being convicted for treason. They weren’t. They were convicted and executed for espionage. > **[The Rosenberg Trial - Nuclear Museum](https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/rosenberg-trial/)** > > The trial and execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for passing atomic secrets to the Soviet Union remains controversial today. > On March 29, 1951, the court convicted Julius and Ethel Rosenberg of conspiracy to commit espionage. On April 5, Judge Kaufman sentenced them to death, and sentenced Sobell to 30 years in prison. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/778 "2022-08-12T21:21:26Z")
Gift link: > **[Trump claims he declassified all the documents at Mar-a-Lago. Even if that’s...](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/12/us/politics/declassified-documents-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DFDm8YiPkORJCH_0bRZKF4INc-1DCSX8RAPr4iSLl-yeRCOkFrVxLtvoGZnYxDIzkwrcj7eFIK6K_3fOJy9y72PC7-If1jxba7slXcPmHgXaPehGkiJQ9lvZdlIAm10XIKkrPGQbRz3tJ6j60iAc1qVHxXMnnxyvrsDxx6Ot6HbAiNqVVlHrEEBkyA2IKU-LkCcw5NCFPZTHgZ4m406NJUOtl_L7-oZld7O5K42eNNfzQueIS5BJQxRJzWn6FpsdPNqR-Pwcm3xZYmBdlWGk2f7CI3IkgB1VGoDJY&smid=url-share)** > > None of the three criminal laws cited in the search warrant turn on whether documents have been deemed to be classified. > As a result, the [Espionage Act](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793) makes no reference to whether a document has been deemed classified. Instead, it makes it a crime to retain, without authorization, documents related to the national defense that could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary. > Prosecutors could argue that a document meets that act’s standard regardless of whether Mr. Trump had pronounced it unclassified short before leaving office; by the same token, defense lawyers could argue that it fell short of that standard regardless of how it had been marked. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/779 "2022-08-12T21:27:17Z")
I admit, I’m hoping the next shoe will drop; Investigation of Saudi nationals who are suspected of working with a high ranking former US elected official to obtain secret US nuclear material… ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/780 "2022-08-12T22:28:08Z")
Biden just got back from Saudi Arabia a few weeks ago, to beg them to drop gas prices… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=40)