# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/61 "2022-08-09T00:43:37Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > That’s a hell of a claim. I wouldn’t be surprised, but what’s your reasoning? Me asking myself “What’s the worst this news implies?” This works _very well_ with Trump, hell, using this method I predicted the coup just 6 days after the 2020 election. > [@The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182): > > thinking Trump fired his Secretary of Defense, replaced Esper with Chris Miller. This is a totally normal thing for an outgoing President to prioritize. Esper then says, in an interview in Military Times, that for the George Floyd protests he (Esper) would not support Trump’s desire to invoke the Insurrection Act against the Floyd protesters: [[Google Photos] ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/9xqbCpACp8jJAxHG6) We know if you’re Donald Trump and you want troops on the streets for a Portland police stat… ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/62 "2022-08-09T00:44:25Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump was selling US secrets. That’s what I bet this is coming down to, especially if it pertains to classified documents. Well, you’d think it would need to be something more serious that just not returning stuff to the National Archive in itself. But is this just a guess? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/63 "2022-08-09T00:44:55Z")
Fox News right now: (I have it on mute) TWO-TIERED SYSTEM OF JUSTICE: TRUMP RAIDED, WHILE HUNTER BIDEN STILL NOT CHARGED FOR DODGY DEALINGS. At least they’re acknowledging the raid. That’s something, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/64 "2022-08-09T00:47:07Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > TWO-TIERED SYSTEM OF JUSTICE: TRUMP RAIDED, WHILE HUNTER BIDEN STILL NOT CHARGED FOR DODGY DEALINGS. That implies that they are conceding that Trump engaged in dodgy dealings. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/65 "2022-08-09T00:52:49Z")
MSNBC guest points out that this charge, if substantiated, precludes being president. ETA: It sounds like the restriction may be on holding any federal office. A Watergate expert ridicules TFG’s comparison. ---
**Author:** ![loriloolee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5fc32e/32.png) [@loriloolee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loriloolee)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/66 "2022-08-09T00:54:17Z")
I laughed hard ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/67 "2022-08-09T00:54:21Z")
No, Trump is being raided on nonexistent charges dreamed up by political foes to discredit him, while the evil mastermind Hunter Biden is being covered up for so his deep reaching payola scheme involving his father isn’t revealed. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/68 "2022-08-09T00:55:34Z")
Interesting theory just floated, that they may be going for disqualifying trump from running for office. That would put out the 2024 fire and give them breathing room to deal with the other flames. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/69 "2022-08-09T00:57:54Z")
Yeah, the FBI on these sorts of raids do \*try \* to get the owner to open the safe voluntarily, but the FBI will crack it if that is not forthcoming very quickly. > [@Horatius](#): > > No one has ever warranted a search like Trump! singing …_No one lies like sir trump, Throws a fit like sir trump"_ > **[Trump, Parody Song Lyrics of Disney Songs, Gaston](http://www.amiright.com/parody/90s/disneysongs12.shtml)** > > Trump. Parody song lyrics for the song Gaston by Disney Songs > [@Aspenglow](#): > > We’re still some time away from indictments. But this is an in-your-face move by DOJ and they’re well aware of that. Consider it their public-facing opening gambit. Indictments are coming. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > They took down Al Capone for tax evasion, not his murderous gangstering. Now will the Feds Capone Trump for records violations? If they can’t get him for the insurrection/seditious conspiracy I’ll happily settle for slammer time for that. Yeah, that appears to be a solid but kinda minor charge which is provable. Note that in a poll posted by Yahoo news , only 49% of Republicans think trump should run again. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/70 "2022-08-09T01:06:45Z")
Trump in nyc due to being deposed in the ny investigation. So many investigations closing in. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/71 "2022-08-09T01:14:42Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump was selling US secrets. That’s what I bet this is coming down to, especially if it pertains to classified documents. I wonder if Trump was set up using a [Canary Trap.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_trap) Someone would just need to give Trump some “sooper secret plans” that must never, EVER be given to Putin, and then just sit back and watch the fun. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/72 "2022-08-09T01:17:43Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Trump in nyc due to being deposed in the ny investigation. So many investigations closing in. Methinks the timing of this raid was not coincidental. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/73 "2022-08-09T01:25:34Z")
Do we have a source of information that the raid happened BESIDES the notoriously unreliable Donald J. Trump? BBC and Washington Post are both attributing the information to him, and not to the FBI or any credible witnesses. Not saying it didn’t happen, but… I’d rather have a non-Trump source corroborate. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/74 "2022-08-09T01:26:14Z")
You know, the news I heard over the past 24 hours that I thing may tie more directly to this search and seizure is that Paul Manafort has resurfaced and was nosing around Trump’s orbit. Manafort… Russians… classified documents… what are the odds? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/75 "2022-08-09T01:27:37Z")
Interesting info from Washington post reporter. Archives have been trying to get items from trump all along. He and his lawyers have been resisting turning over items that archives know are missing. One thing mentioned is that rather famous letter from north Korea’s un. After months of back and forth, time ran out for mr trump, and fbi was brought in to search and retrieve. There was concern that some items would be destroyed, or revealed to people that should not see it. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/76 "2022-08-09T01:37:57Z")
“These ruthless FBI agents have even refused my generous offer of comped suites and buffet dinners!” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/77 "2022-08-09T01:40:11Z")
[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52273406869_a22dc3b493_b.jpg "20220808\_203903") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52273406869/) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/78 "2022-08-09T01:41:56Z")
Kevin McCarthy is blustering and threatening Garland. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/79 "2022-08-09T01:51:06Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Do we have a source of information that the raid happened BESIDES the notoriously unreliable Donald J. Trump? The Miami Herald has video of a lot of unmarked black SUVs with flashing lights leaving Mar-A-Lago. > **[FBI searches Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home as inquiry into former president...](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article264310461.html)** > > The circumstances surrounding the raid of the former president’s home are unclear. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/80 "2022-08-09T01:53:59Z")
Maddow and guests are describing T’s statement as confirming rather than generating news of the raid (but not saying what the primary source was). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=5)