# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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It was kinda both, my friends. A reminder that this date hasn’t been settled _and_ a play on the two weeks meme. But, as far as I can tell, this court date is… still on the docket?

> **[Still no new trial date set in Donald Trump classified documents case](https://www.wptv.com/news/trump/still-no-new-trial-date-set-in-donald-trump-classified-documents-case)**
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> It's been two months since defense attorneys and prosecutors in the Donald Trump classified documents case asked Judge Aileen Cannon for a new trial date and she still has not ruled.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
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I don’t know if she can do this but it would not surprise me at all if Cannon said “well, since we have a conflict with the trial going on right now I guess we’ll have to reschedule this one for a year from now.” Or maybe she can tactically reschedule to block any other trials from going forward before the election while she sits on motions.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
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Yeah, I’d put good money on a continuance of this trial. I don’t think either side is going to object, in light of the ongoing New York trial. This doesn’t even require Cannon’s influence.

But we are ever so slowly making progress towards a resolution.

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> Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance suggested a series of major updates is in the pipeline, after Judge [Aileen Cannon](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/aileen-cannon) set a May 9 deadline for Trump and his two co-defendants to submit court filings related to Section 5(a) of the Classified Information Procedures Act (CIPA)…
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> Writing in her [Civil Discourse blog](https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-week-ahead-922?r=5n3e&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true), Vance said: "Section 5(a) is important because it requires defendants who plan to disclose classified information to provide written notice far enough in advance of trial to permit the government to obtain rulings from the court and appeal if necessary to avoid a ‘graymail’ situation where defendants force the government to dismiss charges against them to avoid disclosure of classified information that would damage national security.
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> “Expect this to be a hotbed of activity,” Vance added.

> **[Donald Trump's Mar-A-Lago case about to be "hotbed of activity": Attorney](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-classified-documents-maralago-cipa-1897507)**
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> Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance discusses importance of May 9 deadline for CIPA court filings in federal case.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8129 "2024-05-07T01:18:35Z")

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Report that Walt Nauta’s phone has two classified documents on it:

> **[Walt Nauta is about to go through some things - Jack Smith finds secret docs...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/6/2239279/-Walt-Nauta-is-about-to-go-through-some-things-Jack-Smith-finds-secret-docs-shared-from-his-phone?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web)**
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> From Newsweek :
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> Two images of classified documents were found on a phone owned by Donald Trump 's valet, federal prosecutors have claimed in court.
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> Prosecutors will call a phone expert to show ...

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8130 "2024-05-07T16:26:40Z")

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LOL, most predictable ruling in the world:

(Gift link)

> **[Judge Pushes Back Critical Filing Deadline in Trump Documents Case](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/us/politics/trump-classified-documents-trial-delay.html?unlocked_article_code=1.qE0.jIB1.fdG_807tLZj4&smid=url-share)**
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> Judge Aileen M. Cannon did not immediately set a new date, but the delay increases the chance that the trial will not happen before the November election.

Nothing else to add.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
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Trial is now postponed indefinitely. What a tool.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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Have hope; I’m here to share hope. Trump will lose in November, and the urgency to get this shit rolling will be diminished. He can run, but he can’t hide.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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Isn’t it fairly common for one person to be on trial for multiple things at a time? Criminals gonna crime, after all. Surely there’s some standard procedure for dealing with something like that?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8134 "2024-05-07T22:02:20Z")

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I think that’s where Cannon comes in. If the Supreme Court wasn’t also slow walking Trump stuff, I’d call her unique.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Surely there’s some standard procedure for dealing with something like that?

As always IANAL, but my unimpeachable expertise that I gained with a couple of Google searches suggests that the different courts handling the different cases will coordinate and try not to step on each others’ toes, just as they are with Trump. That isn’t something special that’s happening because of who Trump is, that’s standard when someone is accused of multiple crimes and/or the subject of multiple lawsuits in different cases and different jurisdictions.

The delays and general handling of Trump with kid gloves though, that is fairly unique, and has a lot to do with his status as a former POTUS.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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You left out “Republican”. If a Democratic politician were alleged to have committed what Trump is alleged to have committed, it wouldn’t be like this.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
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That is our only hope. If he should win, the pooch is royally screwed. We need Democratic presidents for the next 20 years to unpack the judiciary.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> That is our only hope. If he should win, the pooch is royally screwed.

However, Judge Cannon is set for life. Likely the next SC vacancy is hers. Which is likely what she’s gambling on here.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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I hear you. But we only need 4 years to hold this fucker Trump accountable. I’d like to see Cannon try to delay this for four years.

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Of course it’s still up in the air what the best Supreme Court money can buy is going to do about immunity.

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Man, I’m trying to inspire hope here!

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Aileen Cannon obviously follows this thread - my post from yesterday was surely her wake up call.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I’d like to see Cannon try to delay this for four years.

She can’t.

But she can still grant a defense motion for a directed verdict after the prosecution has made its case to a sworn jury, saying that Jack Smith’s team did not prove their case and therefore the case is dismissed.

No right of appeal for the prosecution if this happens.

Several legal experts I’ve heard have opined this is exactly what Cannon is angling to do.

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As in: a jury sat and heard the prosecution’s case, but the case is never left for the jury to decide? That sounds like matches and flammable items coming together.

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Exactly like that.

ETA: It would be a filthy thing for her to do, but something tells me Cannon doesn’t mind that.

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