# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8186 "2024-05-18T20:57:14Z")

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Whoops. I’m skimming too many threads and thought I was responding to a general republican hypocrisy post.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8187 "2024-05-19T00:34:37Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Oh, come on, don’t you remember them specifically saying that Bush v. Gore didn’t count as a precedent?

Well, Trump shouldn’t count as a President either, but here we are.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8188 "2024-05-19T01:01:41Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Or when when Scalia died just before an election and they wouldn’t even look at any of Obama’s nominees for reasons…

> [@Chronos](#):
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> That wasn’t the court; that was the Senate.

It was Mitch McConnell, to be specific-- let’s name names. 🧐

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8189 "2024-05-19T01:11:43Z")

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It also wasn’t just before an election. He died in February.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8190 "2024-05-19T01:15:23Z")

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More bullshit from Mitch. 😠

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8191 "2024-05-19T07:13:25Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Or when when Scalia died just before an election and they wouldn’t even look at any of Obama’s nominees for reasons, but those reasons were tossed out the window when it was time for Trump to nominate Amy Coney Barrett under a similar timeline.

Umm, your intended point is clear, but two months before an election isn’t really that similar to nine months before an election…

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8192 "2024-05-19T10:48:54Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> That wasn’t the court; that was the Senate.

> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> It also wasn’t just before an election. He died in February.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Umm, your intended point is clear, but two months before an election isn’t really that similar to nine months before an election…

FFS people, I fucked up, move on.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8193 "2024-05-19T11:54:15Z")

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Hey, nothing personal. Just clarification for others who may have forgotten how and why this happened. And let me reiterate, this was Mitch McConnell’s fault.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8194 "2024-05-19T12:34:54Z")

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Right. That “nine months” fact is CRUCIAL, and must be made clear in any context this comes up, even an “oops - wrong thread” situation.

Because it has unjustly skewed the Supreme Court in s certain direction, it’s already had an effect. If there is a narrow decision around, say, January 6 2025, that seals the fate of American democracy, it will have been an even more momentous fact.

Again, nothing personal, it’s just something we MUST get right, especially in a forum dedicated to “fighting ignorance.”

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8195 "2024-05-22T14:13:24Z")

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back in florida today. per cnn:

US District Judge Aileen Cannon will hear arguments from defense attorneys on two separate bids to throw out charges in the case. In the first motion, Trump’s valet and co-defendant Walt Nauta alleges he is being vindictively prosecuted, and in the second, Trump and his co-defendants argue the indictment suffers technical flaws requiring its dismissal.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8196 "2024-05-22T14:16:26Z")

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So the “you’re all mean to me” defense, followed by the “you forgot to dot the i” defense.

Waiting for the “grasping at straws” defense.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8197 "2024-05-22T14:21:33Z")

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And Judge Cannon will need 6 months to review and deliberate.

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Is there a chance that Cannon will throw the case out based on either of these motions? And if so, is that it?

Also, why was this case charged in Florida? Couldn’t it have been charged in Washington DC, where the documents were stolen from rather than in Florida where they were taken to? Isn’t the crime committed the moment you step out of the SCIF and take the SCI with you? (And now this has got me picturing Trump ala Jimmy in Pulp Fiction asking if there is a sign on Mar a Lago that says “Classified Document Storage” to which I am compelled to respond I think so but I can’t tell because it’s in Cyrillic.)

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8199 "2024-05-22T14:28:12Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> So the “you’re all mean to me” defense, followed by the “you forgot to dot the i” defense.
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> Waiting for the “grasping at straws” defense.

It’s all part of the grasping at straws. Those are two of the straws.

But as far as Walt Nauta goes, earlier this month, there was a report they found two classified documents on his phone. I don’t think he’s as innocent as he pretends.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8200 "2024-05-22T15:02:05Z")

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Trump sycophants are claiming the FBI was authorized to assassinate him during the Mar-a-late raid.

> **[GOP lawmakers conflate standard FBI policies with an assassination attempt on...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/gop-lawmakers-conflate-fbi-policy-trump-assassination-attempt-rcna153413)**
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> The online remarks from two Trump allies came after the former president posted about the FBI's search of his Mar-a-Lago resort in 2022.

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“GOP lawmakers” gives them far, far too much gravitas.

The headline should have been “far right fringe attention seeking whack-a-doodles”

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8202 "2024-05-22T15:07:00Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> whack-a-doodles”

Is that the breed of designer MAGA dog, like Labradoodle?

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i thought you could do this as long as you are not convicted in the senate.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8204 "2024-05-22T15:20:10Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Trump sycophants are claiming the FBI was authorized to assassinate him during the Mar-a-late raid.

This seems to be related.

[Trump lashes out after DOJ reveals classified documents were found in ex-president’s bedroom at Mar-a-Lago](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-lashes-out-after-doj-reveals-classified-documents-were-found-in-ex-president-s-bedroom-at-mar-a-lago/ar-BB1mNSmU)

> Donald Trump has lashed out once again at Joe Biden and the US Department of Justice after it was revealed that classified documents were found stashed in his bedroom at Mar-a-Lago. …
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> In her opinion, Judge Howell wrote: “Notably, no excuse is provided as to how the former president could miss the classified-marked documents found in his own bedroom at Mar-a-Lago.”

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the majority of the crime happened in florida. at the time of the indictment a case was going through the supreme court regarding venue.

[Supreme Court rules for prosecutors in venue case that might have influenced Trump charging decision (abajournal.com)](https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/supreme-court-rules-for-prosecutors-in-venue-case-that-might-have-influenced-trump-charging-decision#google_vignette)

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