# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/801 "2022-08-13T00:18:39Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > “President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!” > – Donald Trump, August 12, 2022 So… He’s saying that while he was President, he failed to enforce the law against a criminal Democrat? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/802 "2022-08-13T00:25:10Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Each investigation in its own time. They’re running on separate tracks and separate time lines. But I believe they’ll all land as they ripen. Now I’m thinking of Missile Command only it’s criminal indictments instead of missiles. The lawyers can keep swatting them down but sooner or later they’re going to start hitting and then it’s game over. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nokIGklnBGY/hqdefault.jpg "Arcade Longplay [621] Missile Command") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokIGklnBGY&t=386) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/803 "2022-08-13T00:27:27Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Now I’m thinking of Missile Command only it’s criminal indictments instead of missiles. The lawyers can keep swatting them down but sooner or later they’re going to strat hitting and then it’s game over. Did you see this: > [@NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/3825): > > No clue where to post this. Things are moving much faster now; this is probably posted elsewhere… Er, even without more specifics, shoulda been in the schadenfraude thread. whatevs Relates to the fake electors spoke of the January 6th scheme, I think. As such, it doesn’t belong in this thread, but I thought you’d enjoy knowing about it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/804 "2022-08-13T00:29:55Z")
What he’s saying is that Obama’s middle name is Hussein. Because he and his marchers are all motivated by racism. ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/805 "2022-08-13T01:12:12Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > Trump corrupts everything. He’s like mold that gets into everything it touches, and poisons it, eventually killing it. > > Oddly, this remarkable power doesn’t seem to extend to his supporters. Sure it does. The majority of Covid deaths in the past year+ were anti-vaxxers, & anti-vaxxers are almost always Trump supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/806 "2022-08-13T01:16:45Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > Something may very well come of it if, after cataloguing what they’ve found, the investigators determine that there are still items missing. What items, and where are they? That could lead to all kinds of unpleasant outcomes, and not just for Agent Orange. Jared comes to mind. Though the idea of keeping/moving these documents may well have originated with Trump, he had to have help executing the plan. This was just too organized for the orange one to pull off alone. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/807 "2022-08-13T01:36:41Z")
I’m sure they can get finger prints or dna off of the pages or items. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/808 "2022-08-13T02:08:35Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Like Merrick Garland keeps saying, he will proceed without fear or favor wherever the evidence leads. That’s how it should be done. I have confidence in him. Political appointees should set broad policy guidelines and stay out of the way when it comes to individual charging decisions. As for what the career prosecutors should do, they should make a case if there is a high chance of success in court. In this case, that means staying away from a jury trial where one Trumper would be enough to prevent conviction. [Here’s the relevant rule:](https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-right-trial-jury.html): > [@](#): > > According to the Supreme Court, the jury-trial right applies only when “serious” offenses are at hand—petty offenses don’t invoke it. For purposes of this right, a serious offense is one that carries a potential sentence of more than six months’ imprisonment. Charge him with violating the Espionage Act, and you are handing him another big win, just like the Democrats did with impeachment. Charge him with stealing a few papers rightfully the property of the Nation Archives, and that might get an actual deserved conviction. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/809 "2022-08-13T02:24:17Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > I’m sure they can get finger prints or dna off of the pages or items. > ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/810 "2022-08-13T02:40:53Z")
I don’t want to know how DNA gets on a document… ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/811 "2022-08-13T02:47:54Z")
Maybe Roger Stone was very excited to see his pardon. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/812 "2022-08-13T02:59:41Z")
Don’t want to know, don’t want to know … la la la - fingers in ears… ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/813 "2022-08-13T03:02:15Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I don’t want to know how DNA gets on a document… It’s called “touch DNA” and can get on things in a variety of ways. It’s become a tool for forensic investigation of crimes. Here’s a technical paper on it: [Touch DNA in forensic science: The use of laboratory-created eccrine fingerprints to quantify DNA loss - PMC](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7219128/) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/814 "2022-08-13T04:19:27Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But how did he know which documents that FBI was going to plant so he could declassify them before hand? 5d chess ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/815 "2022-08-13T04:20:59Z")
From a dude that places 3rd in games of solitaire. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/816 "2022-08-13T04:47:11Z")
If we can play Clue for a bit, guessing who’s ratting out Trump and what he’s being ratted out for……….my guess is: Tom Barrack in Saudi Arabia with a nuclear reactor. This morning I read this House Oversight Report outlining some corruption that had largely sailed under the radar, early in Trump’s presidency. [https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf](https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf) Tom Barrack is one of Trump’s millionaire buddies, someone that raised a lot of money from him and wanted some things in return. The short version of the scandal is that Mike Flynn, Tom Barrack and others were part of a consortium that wanted to build nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia. They faced a couple of significant barriers in exporting the technologies, such as Congressional approval and, more significantly, the fact that the Saudi’s were not willing to agree not to use the reactors to enrich uranium. They had a scheme to circumvent these things they saw as technicalities, which involved Trump issuing statements they had written and signing executive orders that they had drafted and making statements they had drafted to the Saudis and the public, also appointing Barrack as a Special Envoy. Some folks at the NSC (National Security Council) got wind of this and tried to shut down, they weren’t really successful but they threw enough wrenches into the works that the deals didn’t happen. Tom Barrack was indicted for acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government over his extensive dealings with the Saudis. However, the indictment never mentions the nuclear deal that is the subject of the House Oversight Report. My theory is that this nuclear deal thing gives the government an incredible amount of leverage over Barrack, because conspiring to circumvent the law to help the Saudis enrich uranium would be an extremely serious charge. So I think he’s cooperating in order to involve being charged over the prospective nuclear deal, which would’ve been an administration defining scandal under any other President, but it’s just one of many things that escaped notice during the Trump years. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/817 "2022-08-13T05:09:44Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Tom Barrack is one of Trump’s millionaire buddies, someone that raised a lot of money from him and wanted some things in return. Like Trump would be friends with someone name “Barrack”. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/818 "2022-08-13T07:59:33Z")
Apologies, I haven’t read the whole thread (it escalated quickly) but I see that the talk is now relating to charges of _espionage_. I am not happy about that. That seems far too _glamorous_ for the likes of Trump. Can we not find something just as serious but rather more squalid? Not something that brings to mind undercover infiltration, shadowy secret intelligence agents and subtle intrigues. I mean, just read that last paragraph. In no way do “Trump” and “subtle intrigues” sit comfortably together. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/819 "2022-08-13T09:51:04Z")
I haven’t seen this posted yet. Here’s a copy of the warrant and the evidence recovered. > **[Mar A Lago Warrant - 081222 | PDF | Search Warrant | Mar A Lago](https://www.scribd.com/document/586757840/Mar-a-Lago-Warrant-081222#fullscreen&from_embed)** > > Mar a Lago Warrant - 081222 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/820 "2022-08-13T10:44:45Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > From a dude that places 3rd in games of solitaire. Behind the Joker and the box the cards came in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=42)