# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\
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But it’s okay! It’s fine! The President is immune from prosecution; he can do what he wants!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Getting involved in the case in any way would be the worst possible move by Biden,

I agree. Quite frankly, if I heard that a president interfered in that way with the independence of the courts in a criminal case involving his political opponent, I would support his impeachment.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8228 "2024-05-23T14:29:04Z")

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If Cannon somehow faced sanctions (oh in some dreamy alternate universe) would it be the 11th district implemeting such a measure?

_Wonderful_ photo of ersatz Nixon upthread, btw.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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“Shocking” news: More documents were found in Trump’s bedroom after the FBI search.

> **[Classified files found in Trump bedroom at Mar-a-Lago](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gglgwe49zo)**
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> Prosecutors allege a “scramble" to ensure boxes containing sensitive material were moved “off-camera" at Mar-a-Lago.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8230 "2024-05-23T14:55:27Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> If Cannon somehow faced sanctions (oh in some dreamy alternate universe) would it be the 11th district implemeting such a measure?

She can’t be sanctioned. And, as others have pointed out, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals isn’t her “boss” in the traditional way. They have the power to review _her decisions_ (at times) but they don’t have any authority to discipline her or anything like that.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8231 "2024-05-23T16:41:21Z")

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Over the past few days, I’m seeing a small group trying to sanction the Judge, and to get others to do the same.

Here is how it’s done: People, even you, file a complaint of misconduct. If the complaint is valid/accepted, Judge Cannon can be sanctioned. So, there is a process for it, however extremely unlikely an accepted complaint and sanction would be.

You need to take it up with her Circuit Chief Judge. Go here: [Filing a Judicial Conduct Complaint Against a Federal Judge](https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-conduct-disability/faqs-filing-judicial-conduct-or-disability-complaint#faq-How-do-I-file-my-complaint?). That is the FAQ and includes a link to the 2-page complaint form. This [article contains a 20min video on how to fill it out](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-prosecutor-urges-americans-to-file-judge-aileen-cannon-complaints/ar-BB1mRvv5) - you can skip to the how fill it part which is about 8mins.

Here is what powers the Chief Judge (he refers it to a committee actually) has:

From the above .gov link, if the order accepts your complaint, the order may sanction the judge by (edited for context of this case - removed disability/bankruptcy, etc. check the full list in case I removed appropriate ones that may not be re: disability):

> - censuring or reprimanding the judge, either by private communication or by public announcement;
> - ordering that no new cases be assigned to the judge for a limited, fixed period;  
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> - recommending corrective action.
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> The judicial council may take other action, such as requesting the special committee conduct an additional investigation.
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> Federal judges appointed under Article III of the U.S. Constitution (_e.g._, circuit and district judges) hold office for life pending good behavior. Only Congress can remove an Article III judge from office. If the judicial council finds an Article III judge’s conduct may warrant impeachment, it must refer that finding to the Judicial Conference. On referral, the Judicial Conference will determine whether to certify the matter to Congress, which will then decide whether to initiate impeachment proceedings.

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> But, my question is, did they just set themselves up for another raid?

Probably not. The Trump team may be made up exclusively of dim bulbs but even they are smart enough to remove anything incriminating from the secret stash area before they announce it to the FBI. Given that its been a year and a half since the raid, the FBI has to assume that any other documents that they missed have either been destroyed or moved to a more secure location where the FBI wouldn’t be able to find them (e.g. the Kremlin).

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8233 "2024-05-23T23:37:43Z")

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Thank-you @Procrustus and @CoolHandCox.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8234 "2024-05-25T04:18:03Z")

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I’m reckoning on their being a fury of threats against the fbi.

> **[Special counsel asks judge for gag order in Trump classified documents case |...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/24/politics/trump-gag-order-trump-classified-documents/index.html)**
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> Special counsel’s office prosecutors have asked a federal judge in Florida to place a gag order on Donald Trump that would limit his ability to comment about law enforcement that searched his Mar-a-Lago resort.

Special counsel’s office prosecutors on Friday asked a federal judge in Florida to place a gag order on [Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/politics/president-donald-trump-45) that would limit his ability to comment about law enforcement that searched his Mar-a-Lago resort.

While Trump has told his supporters he could have been in danger because of the policy, the policy is standard protocol for FBI searches and limits how agents may use force in search operations. The same standard FBI policy was used in the searches of President Joe Biden’s homes and offices in a separate classified documents investigation.

Prosecutors for special counsel Jack Smith wrote to Judge Aileen Cannon in a filing Friday night that the conditions that allow Trump not to be in jail awaiting trial should be updated.

Prosecutors say Trump’s lawyers told them they are against a restriction on his ability to comment about law enforcement who worked on the investigation, and they opposed the special counsel’s office responding to Trump’s recent remarks to the court late Friday of Memorial Day weekend.

“They do not believe that there is any imminent danger, and asked to meet and confer next Monday,” prosecutors added in the filing.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8235 "2024-05-25T11:51:22Z")

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New Legal Eagle video. I’m surprised it wasn’t already posted here:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/v1rTtbQJuTI/maxresdefault.jpg "How Judge Cannon Killed The Documents Case ft. Liz Dye") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1rTtbQJuTI)

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8236 "2024-05-25T17:56:45Z")

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I was considering it… it is a good one. It goes through some of the things that are awaiting the judge’s ruling. Boy howdee, are they piling up.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8237 "2024-05-25T20:23:19Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I’m surprised it wasn’t already posted here:

I haven’t finished watching it yet and didn’t want to post it without being able to comment on it.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/8238 "2024-05-26T02:09:50Z")

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Once a grand jury has handed down an indictment, a trial should follow, by law somehow. It’s pretty wrong if a judge can summarily shelve cases she doesn’t like. It’s not just the defendant who has a right to a speedy trial, damn it.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
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There should be a “shit or get off the pot” category for writs of mandamus.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> It’s pretty wrong if a judge can summarily shelve cases she doesn’t like.

She’s not shelving it, she’s just delaying it until late January when she plans to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> She’s not shelving it, she’s just delaying it until late January when she plans to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

…At which point he’ll direct the DOJ to drop the case then claim he never met some lady named Aileen.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> she’s just delaying it until late January when she plans to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

To be fair, that would be the preferred method for someone of the Trumpian mold. See, for example, all of the nonsense around structuring payments to before and after the election - to incentivize compliance - mentioned in the Hush Money Case thread.

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> There should be a “shit or get off the pot” category for writs of mandamus.

Google translate gave me this:

> cacas vel dimittunt ollam\*

Maybe it can be worked into law school curricula. 🤷🏽‍♀️

* * *

\*Reversing the translation gave: “poop or let go of the pot.” Pretty darned close!

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Very elegant! I like it!

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While there’s a lull, I just wanted to mention something I recently learned:

> Stern did not specify the files the Archives wanted beyond “original correspondence between President Trump and North Korean Leader Kim Jung-un” and “the letter that President Obama left for President Trump on his first day in office.” **An unsealed FBI report indicated the Archives also sought the so-called “Sharpiegate” map of Hurricane Dorian that the former president used during a 2018 televised briefing on the track of the storm.**

[bolding mine]

Isn’t this just precious?? He’s so proud of having hit the then zenith of his idiocy that he wanted it as a memento to pass down to his kids!

[**SOURCE**](https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/unredactions-reveal-early-biden-white-house-involvement-trump-documents-case#gsc.tab=0)

[If anybody isn’t remembering the context of the story, it’s [**here**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Dorian%E2%80%93Alabama_controversy)]

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