# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/841 "2022-08-13T13:14:03Z")
How the hell did Tucker ever live down that whole balls tanning bs? He should have been mocked back to the stone age. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/842 "2022-08-13T13:26:25Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > The only thing he could look forward to would be his conjugal visits, where they leave him alone with a fringed flag. They’ll leave him with a copy of Forbes magazine as well. > [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > How the hell did Tucker ever live down that whole balls tanning bs? He should have been mocked back to the stone age. Spoken like a person with pale balls. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/843 "2022-08-13T13:36:37Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think Trump would love prison **If** he was in a regular prison with the regular population and with absolutely no access to any trappings of his previous life, I wonder how he would deal with not having the luxury etc to which I’m sure he feels entitled. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/844 "2022-08-13T13:43:37Z")
There is a unbelievably large amount of people that will lick their finger before turning a page. Add in coughing and sneezing,possibly eating at desks, paper can get very icky very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/845 "2022-08-13T13:50:38Z")
For others who may have been puzzling over the acronyms: TS/SCI = Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmented Information > **[Sensitive compartmented information](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_compartmented_information)** > > Sensitive compartmented information (SCI) is a type of United States classified information concerning or derived from sensitive intelligence sources, methods, or analytical processes. All SCI must be handled within formal access control systems established by the Director of National Intelligence. > SCI is not a classification; SCI clearance has sometimes been called "above Top Secret", but information at any classification level may exist within an SCI control system. When "decompartmentalized",... RD/FRD = Restricted Data / Formerly Restricted Data > **[Restricted Data](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_Data)** > > Restricted Data (RD) is a category of proscribed information, per National Industrial Security Program Operating Manual (NISPOM). Specifically, it is defined by the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 as: > The concept was initially introduced, with similar wording, in the Atomic Energy Act of 1946. It was added at a relatively late moment to the bill by its creators, after the Gouzenko affair was leaked to the press and caused a fear of loss of "the secret" of the atomic bomb, as well as fears that the Esp... > **[List of U.S. security clearance terms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._security_clearance_terms)** > > This is a list of security clearance terms used in the United States of America. > Security clearance levels are used to control access to information that should not be freely available to all. These levels often appear in employment postings for Defense related jobs and other jobs involving substantial amounts of responsibility, such as air traffic control or nuclear energy positions. > The different organizations in the United States Federal Government use different terminology and lettering a... ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/846 "2022-08-13T14:06:28Z")
Old news, but it easily could have been very bad: [https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/25/chinese-trespasser-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-resort-sentenced.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/25/chinese-trespasser-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-resort-sentenced.html) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/847 "2022-08-13T14:06:49Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Won’t matter - he’ll plea each one down (from life imprisonment or possibly execution) to ten years in Leavenworth, Kansas, to be served consecutively. I think house arrest is the most likely sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/848 "2022-08-13T14:14:24Z")
Unfortunately I think the most likely outcome is he runs out the clock to 2024, DeSantis, or some other Republican gets in and it all goes away. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/849 "2022-08-13T14:25:17Z")
I didn’t open the article, but haven’t there been at least _two_ Chinese nationals arrested (on different occasions) for Trespassing (at least) at Mar-A-Lago ? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/850 "2022-08-13T14:27:18Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Unfortunately I think the most likely outcome is he runs out the clock to 2024, DeSantis, or some other Republican gets in and it all goes away. At least it keeps him out of the White House. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/851 "2022-08-13T14:31:37Z")
Trump isn’t the one in charge of the time table, though. There’s no clock for him to run out. It’s up to DOJ and the courts, with a clear motivation to get it done before such a thing could happen. Plus Trump is going to run for president unless the Republicans do something to stop him. Either he gets the nomination and we get a rerun of 2020 with him having even less support, or, more likely, he’s a bomb who destroys the chances of anyone else. I would not at all put the Republicans winning in the presidency in 2024 as the most likely outcome. It’ snot impossible: Trump won with a 1 in 5 chance in 2016. But his continued presence is very much lowering their chances. He excites a certain base, but no one else. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/852 "2022-08-13T14:33:48Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Old news, but it easily could have been very bad: [https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/25/chinese-trespasser-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-resort-sentenced.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/25/chinese-trespasser-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-resort-sentenced.html) The headling describing her as carrying “a bag full of electronics” is a little… misleading. It was: > four mobile phones, a laptop computer, an external hard drive, and a thumb drive that “contained malicious software,” ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/853 "2022-08-13T14:36:06Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > At least it keeps him out of the White House. Mulling that over though, is that necessarily a net positive for whoever the democrat candidate may be? It is a comforting thought that Trump gets barred from holding office, I’ll buy that for a dollar, but does that mean a less deranged republican with perhaps wider appeal gets to run whilst plausibly pointing to a “politically motivated hit-job”? That doesn’t sound great, mind you the alternative of Trump beating the rap isn’t great either. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/854 "2022-08-13T14:40:23Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Mulling that over though, is that necessarily a net positive for whoever the democrat candidate may be? Not everything is about politics and our “team” winning. While I’d certainly rather have a Democrat_ic_ candidate in the White House come January 2025, I’d take a slightly saner Republican over Trump. Trump back in the White House, I don’t know if our country would survive recognizably. DeSantis, for all the faults I have with him, at least seems to want there to still be a country after he leaves office. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/855 "2022-08-13T14:44:39Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > DeSantis, for all the faults I have with him, at least seems to want there to still be a country after he leaves office. Will we recognize the country, though? And why wouldn’t he push for an extended time in the office once he gets settled in? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/856 "2022-08-13T14:46:38Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’d take a slightly saner Republican over Trump. The problem with a Republican president is that he would most likely pardon any crimes Trump and his cronies (may have) committed, and initiate a Purge on Democrats and freedom. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/857 "2022-08-13T14:47:31Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Trump back in the White House, I don’t know if our country would survive recognizably. DeSantis, for all the faults I have with him, at least seems to want there to still be a country after he leaves office. Isn’t it a weird world where the very minimum of respectable leadership behaviour needs to be flagged as something in a candidates favour? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/858 "2022-08-13T15:23:23Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think the opposite. You’re probably right. In my head he was just in ‘regular’ prison, not a fancy white collar resort/prison. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I think house arrest is the most likely sentence. If he can still have visitors, use his phone and have internet access, would anything be any different? At least if he’s in jail all his communications with the outside world would be monitored/recorded and there would be a list of every visitor. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/859 "2022-08-13T15:27:56Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > If he can still have visitors, use his phone and have internet access, would anything be any different? YMMV but I think a nice jail is still a jail. Pablo Escobar was able to build his own prison and one thing he made sure to include was an escape tunnel so he could leave at will. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/860 "2022-08-13T15:31:13Z")
The part you quoted was about house arrest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=44)