# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/881 "2022-08-13T19:52:45Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> I thought espionage brought the death penalty. I could live with that.

Oh man. Of all the outcomes, this would be the one that would be likeliest to usher in the apocalypse.

Trump already runs a death cult, whose members show their allegiance to him by refusing the COVID vaccine or masks. The last thing you do with an active death cult is kill off the cult leader: there’s no better way to solidify and make permanent the death cultists’ belief system than to turn their leader into a martyr.

The chances that the death penalty will be applied here are vanishingly small, but if they were, I would legit expect at minimum mass terrorism, and very possibly civil war. The capture and use of nuclear weapons by members of the death cult is not outside the question, given the tens of millions of members it has.

We need to attenuate and exhaust the cultists’ enthusiasm, not give them a martyr to worship.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/882 "2022-08-13T19:54:35Z")

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Interesting. I didn’t realize that. Ignorance fought.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/883 "2022-08-13T20:03:16Z")

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More here:

> **[Julius and Ethel Rosenberg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg)**
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> Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were American citizens who were convicted of spying on behalf of the Soviet Union. The couple were convicted of providing top-secret information about radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines, and valuable nuclear weapon designs. Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining...

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/884 "2022-08-13T20:03:26Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I believe you are thinking of treason.

But it’s **[_sparkling_ treason!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-08-08-22/969329/680)**

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/885 "2022-08-13T20:15:46Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The chances that the death penalty will be applied here are vanishingly small…

I couldn’t see a prosecutor asking for it, and I would never imagine it would be carried out, given Trump’s age. I mean, it took McVeigh four years after his trial to be executed, and by the end he _wanted_ the death penalty. Donald Trump would take every avenue of appeal available - and he’d have many.

But yes, a death sentence, carried out, would be hideously inflammatory to every Trumpist around.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/886 "2022-08-13T20:41:29Z")

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Unlikely as it would be in practical reality, I would still drop it on the table as a bargaining chip and a bluff.

_Especially_ if the ongoing forensic analysis finds, like, Don Jr’s prints on the documents.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/887 "2022-08-13T20:55:55Z")

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1970s 10x60 mobile home in/on a bombing range. “See how close you can get, but don’t hit it”

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/888 "2022-08-13T20:57:18Z")

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Interestingly, their children were adopted by Abel Meeropol, a Jewish teacher who wrote the poem Strange Fruit, in response to images of lynchings of black southern men. That poem was made famous by Billie Holliday who recorded it.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/889 "2022-08-13T21:07:31Z")

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If Trump were executed for espionage, he might have his old friend Roy Coen to thank for setting the precedent.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/890 "2022-08-13T21:18:49Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> he might have his old friend Roy Coen to thank for setting the precedent

For anyone who might not be aware, that disbarred and disgraced piece of shit was Trump’s mentor and an important influence on his eventual development into a horror of a human being with the ethics of a nocturnal rodent.

ETA: Fixed misuse of “protege”.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/891 "2022-08-13T21:22:06Z")

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[https://s3.amazonaws.com/v.comb.io/pK0qYM7U/5eCBwr.mp4?1586817500124](https://s3.amazonaws.com/v.comb.io/pK0qYM7U/5eCBwr.mp4?1586817500124)

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Trump’s protégé

Flip that.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/893 "2022-08-13T21:29:57Z")

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NM and words

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Flip that.

Oops – yes, I used the term backwards. Just enough time to fix it.

But in all seriousness, Coen’s mentoring was one of many factors that turned Trump into a conniving species of vermin.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/895 "2022-08-13T21:48:46Z")

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Oh, so we’re going to cater to the lowest common denominator (read that as: lowest form of life) in lieu of seeing justice done? I say, bring it. We need to make sure _nothing even remotely like this_ ever happens again. Trump getting off with a slap on the wrist will motivate the next guy who wants to overthrow the government. Liberty will die, perhaps to thunderous applause.

If the cultists want to rise up from their couches, then I would have two words for the armed forces: Lock and Load. I am far beyond having any sympathy whatsoever for these bottom-feeding scumbags, and they want to throw away their pathetic lives in a futile and stupid gesture, well, they’re just the ones to do it. Having them hamstring the country with the threat of domestic terrorism or Very Possibly Civil War is unconscionable; it is as morally wrong to bully from a position of weakness as it is a position of strength. We’ve tried to play ball with these assclowns and they have spit in our face.

No More. _No More._

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It’s funny how the tone from the left changes when they are able to direct law enforcement and the military at their political enemies. Talks of eradication, dehumanizing language, etc. is a far cry from the disingenuous calls for defund the police and criminal justice reform. The problem wasn’t that police had powers or were using their powers unjustly. The problem was the dems and their regime weren’t in full control of the security apparatus.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/897 "2022-08-13T22:38:26Z")

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896 posts silent and this is what you finally came up with?

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I like to see how extensive and complete the 180º change in stance from ‘all cops are bastards’ and the denouncing of violence for political change after promoting violence for political change solely because of the (D) after the president’s name.

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So it seems Trump the moron had top secret classified documents at the far from secure Mar-A-Lago. How bout that dumb shit? Anyone?

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😃 Ok! 😃

👍🏼

(Please, dnftt. I tested, he is hungry.)

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