# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> After months of back and forth, time ran out for mr trump, and fbi was brought in to search and retrieve. There was concern that some items would be destroyed, or revealed to people that should not see it.

Someone should tell the folks on Fox. According to them, all the FBI had to do was ask for the records and Trump would have handed them over. Like he always does. 🙄

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Reuters has a live feed of the area around Mar-A-Lago, where Trump supporters are gathering to … do something?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yMriudt4TBM/maxresdefault.jpg "LIVE: View of Mar-a-Lago after Trump said FBI agents raided his Florida home") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMriudt4TBM)

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> One thing mentioned is that rather famous letter from north Korea’s un.

The one he wrote to President ald, no doubt.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> According to them, all the FBI had to do was ask for the records and Trump would have handed them over. Like he always does. 🙄

In two weeks.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/85 "2022-08-09T02:26:53Z")

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FoxNews keeps stressing that the place was searched indiscriminately, and that the boxes that were seized were not inspected beforehand. And at least one talking head on Fox has intimated that evidence would be planted by the FBI to get Trump. So there’s the excuse we can expect if there really is something criminal that emerges from the raid.

ETA: I can’t stand Fox, but I like to know what they are spewing to their followers.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/86 "2022-08-09T02:38:04Z")

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It amuses me that Trump thinks the DOJ and FBI are being weaponized against him.

What the hell does he think _he_ did during his term?

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I’m pretty tired of the regular stream of “oh, something is happening!” followed by not much. I hope this leads to something…

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> It amuses me that Trump thinks the DOJ and FBI are being weaponized against him.
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> What the hell does he think _he_ did during his term? -

“When you’re a big star, they let you do it.”

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/89 "2022-08-09T03:01:50Z")

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Hot … August Nights …

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Reuters has a live feed of the area around Mar-A-Lago …

Thanks for that. I watched about five to ten minutes, and not much was happening. Until they showed a reporter speaking to a camera. I don’t know what news organization he was reporting for, but I’ll assume CNN, as there was a man behind the reporter, holding a “Fake News is CNN” sign, and shouting, “CNN! Fake news!” over and over.

The Reuters camera operator spoke with the man, who regurgitated all the expected talking points (“witch hunt,” “what about Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden,” “Trump ordered National Guard to the Capitol, but Pelosi nixed it” etc. etc. etc.).

I don’t know what they were gathering for; they were pretty calm and didn’t seem to be spoiling for a fight. Maybe they didn’t know what else to do, so they just gathered.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/91 "2022-08-09T03:14:13Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> The statement Trump issued complains that they even broke into his safe.

OH the humanity!

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I watched about five to ten minutes, and not much was happening.

They’ve stopped the live feed, but you can watch the hour-plus that they recorded. It’s dull in spots, but in others it’s absolutely horrifying, as people spew hatred and conspiracy theories, insisting that the FBI is there to plant evidence, Trump won, etc. etc.

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Now will the Feds Capone Trump for records violations? If they can’t get him for the insurrection/seditious conspiracy I’ll happily settle for slammer time for that.

Finding cartons full of documents that should be in the National Archives are a lot easier to prove than sedition. Like you, I feel any conviction will do.

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Since we are still in the speculation stage of this, still going with the sale of state secrets, possibly being negotiated at that bizarre Golfing with the Saudis tournament Trump threw a couple of weeks ago.

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I think the cherry on top of this raid is that nefarious intent isn’t even required. Some of those documents are so secret _they cannot even be described_. Just having them is all kinds of illegal no matter who you are. Trump does not have some blustering defense about politics that he can fall back on here. He’s screwed.

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Just flying through the reporting, but came to a screeching stop when I saw this from CNN’s Kaitlan Collins:

> <https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1556816677865660417?t=7RW8uGmW_SRo8nJ-6tD0hQ&s=19>

Jay Bratt? Wonder what his agency does…

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52273392541_b2b41e933e_b.jpg "20220808\_233938") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52273392541/)

What was the result of this June visit? Kaitlan continues…

> <https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1556817634603180035?t=m4pDGtakvCoY1y66FIV6pw&s=19>

Speculation stage still, but they sure as hell didn’t raid the guy because of documents they had _already_ clawed back…

… and someone on Twitter just coined “Car-A-Lago Cult” and now I’m insanely jealous.

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From another thread:

> [@So, what were my fellow Dopers doing when they heard The News (regarding FBI Search of Mar-A-Lago)?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-were-my-fellow-dopers-doing-when-they-heard-the-news-regarding-fbi-search-of-mar-a-lago/969343/11):
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> Sorry, but lots of us don’t consider this (the FBI looking for classified documents at Trump’s place) as a big news story.

Would @PastTense, or one of the other “lots of us,” care to explain why you hold this view? I’m not finding anything in a browse of other threads.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> … and someone on Twitter just coined “Car-A-Lago Cult” and now I’m insanely jealous.

You should be, John, that’s the kind of thing I’d expect from you. (And I like your coinages and remarks, BTW.) Sad to hear that you didn’t dream it up sooner.

But “cult” sums it up nicely. As per @CairoCarol 's post above, the cult members are gathering outside Mar-A-Lago. Pretty peaceful and calm, last I looked, but they gathered, as cult members do, when their Dear Leader is threatened somehow.

I hope nothing happens. I hope they just get tired, and go home to sleep.

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> The statement Trump issued complains that they even broke into his safe.

The safe combination was on a Post-It note … but they couldn’t read the handwriting and broke in anyway. To be sure, to be sure.

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Would @PastTense, or one of the other “lots of us,” care to explain why you hold this view? I’m not finding anything in a browse of other threads.

I will say this much, speaking only for myself:  
I was very excited when I heard the DOJ had achieved a search warrant and the FBI executed it. Then I found out is likely just about the documents that everyone has known Trump had for months, and now I expect absolutely zero to come from this. When I believed the search was somehow connected to January Sixth, I was delighted – now, meh.

Trump dodges high powered rifle fire on a routine basis, this pee shooter thing is the absolute least of his worries this week. He has to give a deposition this week in New York, he has trouble brewing in Georgia, and the high king of plausible deniability had a secretary “misfile” some documents??? Yawn.

It is possible to be (almost literally) the straw that broke the camel’s back, but I have serious doubts.

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