# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/981 "2022-08-14T15:37:21Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > “I didn’t know the documents had been removed.” I think the “it wasn’t me” defense is the most likely one he would use. Trump: “I’m not a micro manager and didn’t pack the boxes or even look at them” DOJ: “Well how about all the times that we asked for them back?” Trump: “So arrest my lawyer, or the person that reported it. Nothing to do with me.” Then it will be his word against a few others, and we know how that usually ends up. He squirms out again and again. This is my fear. ETA: this is why I asked about the Supreme Court. I’m thinking at least 5 of them will say that there’s nothing in the Constitution that allows so and so and that kind of BS. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/982 "2022-08-14T15:45:27Z")
Well, the more enablers learn the lesson that the usual is for Trump to toss them under the bus, the better, I say. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/983 "2022-08-14T15:46:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > We can then encourage any hard core Trumpers to do the same. That would be great. I suspect that they won’t be welcomed with open arms. American jails are a penthouse compared to Russian or Saudi jails. I do think that Putin at least knows that Trumps brain is nothing more than some pudding mixed with rocks. So no real advantage there. He could try to ‘ransom’ him, but I hope we just say, nothing to see here and walk away. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/984 "2022-08-14T15:48:02Z")
If Trump does run to Russia, can we just cancel his passport? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/985 "2022-08-14T15:50:35Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I do think that Putin at least knows that Trumps brain is nothing more than some pudding mixed with rocks. So no real advantage there. He could try to ‘ransom’ him, but I hope we just say, nothing to see here and walk away. In such a scenario, wouldn’t the smarter move by Putin be to make a big show of treating Trump well, so as to encourage others to follow in Trump’s footsteps? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/986 "2022-08-14T15:54:04Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > DOJ: “Well how about all the times that we asked for them back?” > > Trump: “So arrest my lawyer, or the person that reported it. Nothing to do with me.” They were in his house, and he’s a grown man. If the cops found drugs in my basement, that’s all there would be to it. It _should_ be that way with the con man, too, but he seems to be above the law. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/987 "2022-08-14T15:55:13Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > If, after maybe _months_ of hearing all the evidence against Trump, even the most reasonable Trump supporter will still vote to acquit him purely out of partisan spite, then the US is pretty much doomed no matter what you do. Most crimes do not result in criminal convictions. I’m sure presidents have gotten away with crimes before, and the republic did not fall. This does not doom us, or anybody. Now. a false conviction does doom somebody. I think that punishing someone with years in prison, because they failed to declassify a paper, when that president could have easily done it, is overreaching. Now, if he stole government property, like presidential signed letters, that would sell for thousands of dollars at auction, that could be an open and shut case. No need for months of trial time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/988 "2022-08-14T16:15:28Z")
As a person who lives in a city with 2 million people and 5 military bases, one military base per 400,000 people, you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/989 "2022-08-14T16:16:09Z")
[https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1558607384972365824](https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/status/1558607384972365824) Boxes were moved around after the DOJ requested the documents be returned, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/990 "2022-08-14T16:16:43Z")
Nm… . ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/991 "2022-08-14T16:21:22Z")
I’m still not understanding how trump would get SCIF documents out of the SCIF area at the WH. You can’t - or at least aren’t supposed to be able to - take those to the WH residence to look at in the evening, right? Even if you’re the president? So that argument shouldn’t work except on hard-core trumpies…right? Rand Paul wants to repeal the Espionage Act now. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/992 "2022-08-14T16:21:46Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If Trump does run to Russia, can we just cancel his passport? If there is an indictment, I believe suspension of one’s passport is SOP. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/993 "2022-08-14T16:25:04Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Rand Paul wants to repeal the Espionage Act now. Those pesky laws impeding Republican’s ability to do their thing. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/994 "2022-08-14T16:28:58Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Investigate the hell out of any Republican politicians who supported the criminal treasonous Trump. I sincerely hope this is already happening and will result in more indictments. If Trump goes down alone, the GOP can spin a “bad apple went too far” narrative, but if top operatives, governors and Congresspeople go down, too, the party’s over. (SWIDT?) As for Trump himself, I don’t especially care how much time he does or where. What I care about is that all his debts get called in, leaving him and his organization truly bankrupt. No more names on buildings, no more personal jets, no more golf courses. That lack of prestige will hurt him more than any prison sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/995 "2022-08-14T16:33:09Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Rand Paul wants to repeal the Espionage Act now. So is that official Republican policy now? They feel that Republicans should be able to steal official government documents containing top secret information about the country’s nuclear secrets, and sell them to the highest bidder? Rand Paul seriously thinks that this is OK? So if Biden sold information about Israel’s nuclear capability to Saudi Arabia for a billion dollars in his personal bank account, Rand Paul would think that’s just fine? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/996 "2022-08-14T16:33:49Z")
I’m hoping the book, when written, will fill in some of the little details of which I’m mildly curious. Like, did they rent a U-Haul? Who drove the truck down, and if he stopped for breaks, how was the truck secured? Nuclear secrets behind a padlock and roll-up door? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/997 "2022-08-14T16:38:32Z")
> The Mar-A-Lago surveillance footage the DOJ subpoenaed was for a 60-day period. I hope they also identified any foreign nationals who may have been making deals with Trump, and/or walking off with any of the classified material. Of course, Republicans will continue to excuse Trump’s sale of top secret nuclear material to foreign agents. These politicians can, and will sink even lower than we every imagined. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/998 "2022-08-14T16:41:38Z")
There was a Republican, I don’t know who, just interviewed on CNN and his biggest problem was that the former guy’s house got raided. Secondarily he was emphatic that Merrick Garland should be bound to follow the law. The Republican talking points must have made their way around just in time for the Sunday talk shows. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/999 "2022-08-14T16:43:38Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I’m still not understanding how trump would get SCIF documents out of the SCIF area at the WH. You can’t - or at least aren’t supposed to be able to - take those to the WH residence to look at in the evening, right? Even if you’re the president? They put in an SCIF at Mar-a-Lago immediately after Trump took office. > **[Trump in Palm Beach: Mar-a-Lago’s SCIF, JFK’s bunker and keeping national...](https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/05/trump-in-palm-beach-mar-a-lagos-scif-jfks-bunker-and-keeping-national-security-secure/2359130007/)** > > The recent “storming” of a Capitol Hill hearing where sensitive information was to be presented raised awareness of secure rooms used by federal officials. There’s such a SCIF at Mar-a-Lago. > Ironically, the existence of the SCIF at the president’s private club in Palm Beach was first revealed in a White House press briefing on February 14, 2017, to rebut criticism Trump himself had put sensitive discussions at risk. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1000 "2022-08-14T16:48:23Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > They put in an SCIF at Mar-a-Lago immediately after Trump took office. As soon as he was ex-president he no longer had the right to enter a SCIF - no security clearance, no “need to know”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=51)