# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 61
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1201 "2022-08-16T16:27:17Z")
I would presume a conviction is a conviction, if it was obtained via plea deal or trial. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1202 "2022-08-16T16:30:29Z")
Wait. Let me see if I’ve learned anything along the way: “The passports were planted there BY the FBI _and_ the pictures were Photoshopped !” How’d I do ? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1203 "2022-08-16T16:31:20Z")
Medically, that’s called _pane on urination._ (Or maybe its reverse) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1204 "2022-08-16T16:33:48Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > “The passports were planted there BY the FBI _and_ the pictures were Photoshopped !” > > How’d I do ? We also would have accepted, “The name on the “passport” is “Donald Trump”; I don’t even know any one named “Donald Trump”!” ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1205 "2022-08-16T16:57:04Z")
But he’s heard bad things about him. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1206 "2022-08-16T16:59:24Z")
That the passports were taken sort of blows up the planted-evidence story, unless Trump is suggesting the FBI secretly stole the passports in advance so they could be salted into the other material for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1207 "2022-08-16T17:09:47Z")
What exactly is a diplomatic passport and when can it be used? I assume it is meant to be used when on official government business and not when you hop to Cancun for a long weekend? Agent Orange clearly retained his regular US passport, probably two (you are allowed to have a second passport if you travel a lot so that you can have one passport to use while the other is sent away for a visa, or if you visit countries unfriendly to each other to keep visas/entry stamps separate so that Israel doesn’t know you have recently been to an Arab country or vice-versa). His travel is in no way restricted. Still wondering about stopping to refuel the flying Trumpmobile in event of him fleeing - is an airport required to provide you with fuel if you land there? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1208 "2022-08-16T17:13:13Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > That the passports were taken sort of blows up the planted-evidence story, unless Trump is suggesting the FBI secretly stole the passports in advance so they could be salted into the other material for some reason. The privileged information claims blow up the the planted information claims. How could the FBI plant privileged information? Logical consistency is not something that this crowd requires. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1209 "2022-08-16T17:21:24Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Still wondering about stopping to refuel the flying Trumpmobile in event of him fleeing - is an airport required to provide you with fuel if you land there? Well, you can find stories about some airlines being refused refueling,so “No”, I guess? > **[Iranian Airlines To Stop Flying To Malaysia As Airports Refuse Refueling](https://simpleflying.com/iran-airlines-malaysia-fuel-sanctions/)** > > US sanctions on refueling Iranian airplanes are forcing an end to direct flights between Iran and Malaysia. ETA: you can also find such stories in which the airline just owes too much money, so they are refused service: > **[Passengers stranded at airport as oil company refuses to refuel SpiceJet...](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/passengers-stranded-at-airport-as-oil-company-refuses-to-refuel-spicejet-aircraft/articleshow/45541344.cms)** > > India News: Several passengers were stranded at the city's Lohegaon airport as cash-strapped private carrier SpiceJet ran into further trouble on Tuesday after pu ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1210 "2022-08-16T17:25:39Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > The privileged information claims blow up the the planted information claims. How could the FBI plant privileged information? > > Logical consistency is not something that this crowd requires. Presumably the planted information has been mixed in with the privileged and magically declassified information. Handy reference: Is it legal? —\> Privileged! Is it classified? —\> Declassified and definitely legal! Is it declassified but also illegal? —\> Planted! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1211 "2022-08-16T17:33:05Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Trump just waves his hands and assumes it will work, though I’m sure the cult will see it as “standing up to the Deep State.” Right up until the trap door opens and the rope snaps taut – metaphorically, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1212 "2022-08-16T17:46:25Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > The privileged information claims blow up the the planted information claims. How could the FBI plant privileged information? That’s pretty easy, actually. Just tape classified papers to the agents and slip them among the various documents. I don’t believe that’s what happened, but it would be pretty easy to do. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1213 "2022-08-16T17:59:05Z")
Um… what? Where does the privileged information come in? You don’t mention it at all. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1214 "2022-08-16T18:01:42Z")
Yeah, I’m not sure what I meant. I think I confused “privileged” with “confidential.” Ignore me! ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1215 "2022-08-16T18:25:22Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > What exactly is a diplomatic passport and when can it be used? I assume it is meant to be used when on official government business and not when you hop to Cancun for a long weekend? I believe that all former Presidents are given diplomatic passports as in theory they continue to be ambassadors of US democracy after leaving office. It also allows them to enjoy extra security perks that you would want former Presidents to have to avoid them being targeted and messed with. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1216 "2022-08-16T18:28:01Z")
Quick and dirty, a pity your original was not in higher resolution, I am too lazy to blur the added parts: [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/JT7VEjM.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/Htk1oIR) You have to click on the image to see it in full, Imgur preview gets cropped in this board. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1217 "2022-08-16T18:30:27Z")
“I read somewhere” that DT first learned of the expired passports having been been taken _when the DOJ returned them._ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1218 "2022-08-16T18:31:53Z")
This makes sense. And THEN he blurbled on about how they took his (expired) passports. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1219 "2022-08-16T18:32:12Z")
[![](https://i.imgur.com/JT7VEjM.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/JT7VEjM.jpg) You can get around the cropping by first opening the picture in a new tab. I think. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1220 "2022-08-16T18:32:29Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > What exactly is a diplomatic passport and when can it be used? I assume it is meant to be used when on official government business and not when you hop to Cancun for a long weekend? My wife used to have one because her father had a high-level military job with diplomatic duties and she was still technically a dependent. It was black, and the main perks she said were that they couldn’t search your bags at airports (checked or carry-on), which meant getting through security a lot faster. If she used this privilege in any particularly exciting way, I am unaware of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=60) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=62)