# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1341 "2022-08-18T21:51:47Z")
I’m sure that they’ll give him a form to fill out and submit. The form will include how much he’ll have to pay per page. I’m also sure that other requests have been submitted days ago. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1342 "2022-08-18T22:45:56Z")
“ **I’m going to identify every single document that they blocked from being declassified** at the National Archives **and we are going to start putting that information out next week**.” Hey, thanks for telling us in advance that you’re planning to break the law! We’ll be sure to fluff the MyPillow and leave a mint on it . . . in your prison cell that is. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1343 "2022-08-18T22:48:47Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > And I agree entirely with the rest of your post - well said. I also support your post, especially the portion I quote below: > [@Joey\_P](#): > > People clearly need a gentle reminder that there’s more to be correct than just being the loudest. Facts aren’t facts simply because you can flood the internet/fox with tweets. You’re not acquitted based on the size of the mob willing to fight about it. You don’t get to ignore the law because you convinced some yokels that you’re the subject of a witch hunt. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1344 "2022-08-19T00:27:23Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > You don’t get to ignore the law because you convinced some yokels that you’re the subject of a witch hunt. It all depends on the number of yokels. Donald Trump won two impeachment trials because he convinced some yokels. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1345 "2022-08-19T00:30:35Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Donald Trump won two impeachment trials because he convinced some yokels. Those yokels being the Republican controled Senate. That’s not convincing, its partisanship. Lost the election BTW. You know, the one where the American people decide. He’s been a crybaby about it ever since. He is a loser by his own definition. And actually there has never been a bigger loser. He lost by the most votes ever. What a loser. Biggest loser ever. He even sucks at being a loser. A worst loser than Al Gore or Hillary Clinton. Worst than John McCain or Mitt Romney. At least they knew how to lose. This one is going to need and get another lesson. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1346 "2022-08-19T00:58:28Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Donald Trump won two impeachment trials because he convinced some yokels. He convinced no one. Do you really believe that all those Republicans were honestly voting their conscience, as opposed to voting according to cynically calculated political interests? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1347 "2022-08-19T01:03:06Z")
And not being impeached is not a win. Its a disgrace that it went that far. Yet another sign that shows he is a loser. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1348 "2022-08-19T01:36:21Z")
FTR. Twice impeached. -By the house, which has impeachment authority. From my understanding, the Senate not confirming doesn’t cancel an impeachment. If the Senate did sign on to the impeachment, they could then consider what the punishment (if any) could be up to and including forbidding the perp from serving in a federal position. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1349 "2022-08-19T01:41:51Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > He is a loser by his own definition. And actually there has never been a bigger loser. He lost by the most votes ever. As much as I would like this to be true - Walter Mondale lost by almost 17 million popular votes in 1984. Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole by almost 10 million in 1996, though Perot had probably created a lot of that margin by grabbing 8 million votes. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1350 "2022-08-19T02:16:37Z")
> [@Ssounder](#): > > From my understanding, the Senate not confirming doesn’t cancel an impeachment. From my understanding, the House decides impeachment. The Senate decides conviction or acquittal. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1351 "2022-08-19T02:21:23Z")
Yea. That was poor sentence structure on my part. Yours, however was short and succinct. At any rate, no Senate, no punishment. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1352 "2022-08-19T02:22:04Z")
> [@Ssounder](#): > > From my understanding, the Senate not confirming doesn’t cancel an impeachment. From my understanding, if you are tried and acquitted, it is unfair to hold the indictment against you. Impeachment isn’t quite the same as a criminal inditement. Trump did lose election in 2020, but the first impeachment seemed to help him a bit in the polls. And he’s still polling reasonably well. The Justice Department shouldn’t make inditement decisions based on stopping someone, however bad, from getting elected. But if that was their aim, the priority would be to stop giving Donald wins. And it seems to me that a hung jury would be a win. Only conviction is a loss. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1353 "2022-08-19T02:27:43Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > From my understanding, if you are tried and acquitted, it is unfair to hold the indictment against you. Are you saying that the Senate acquitted him? Ignorance fought… ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1354 "2022-08-19T02:34:40Z")
Reviewing the definition of acquittal, that fits. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1355 "2022-08-19T02:37:37Z")
> [@Ssounder](#): > > Are you saying that the Senate acquitted him? Yes; that’s how the impeachment process works – and, remember, despite some similar terms, impeachment is _not_ a criminal or civil trial, and is not a punitive process; it’s a governmental procedure. Similarly, Bill Clinton was impeached (by the House), but as with Trump, the Senate acquitted him. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1356 "2022-08-19T02:43:09Z")
Got it. It’s the right term. Side note: Never take my legal advice. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1357 "2022-08-19T05:12:10Z")
I was of course being sarcastic. Trump is the biggest and best whatever he is talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1358 "2022-08-19T05:39:11Z")
I cannot believe the judge might allow the release of even a redacted version of the Affidavit. I hope it does not happen, but even if it does it does not create a loophole for Trump to squeeze through. This seems very ill-advised to me. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1359 "2022-08-19T05:47:19Z")
I’m more concerned at the trumpies complaining that “IT’S SO REDACTED IT’S FAKE” cries will be louder than them already being told it will be “heavily redacted”. You listening, Fox Entertainment? I want residuals on this headline when the super-has-to-be-fake redacted affidavit is realeased. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1360 "2022-08-19T06:37:48Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > As much as I would like this to be true - Walter Mondale lost by almost 17 million popular votes in 1984. Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole by almost 10 million in 1996, though Perot had probably created a lot of that margin by grabbing 8 million votes. But it is true, not that he lost by the largest margin, but that no candidate in the history of the US had more votes go to their opponent. In that sense, it was the largest loss ever. > **[Joe Biden breaks Obama's record for most votes ever cast for a U.S....](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-popular-vote-record-barack-obama-us-presidential-election-donald-trump/)** > > Joe Biden has now received more than 81 million votes — the most of any presidential candidate in U.S. history. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=67) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329.md?page=69)