# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1441 "2022-08-22T23:09:23Z")

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So the Trump filing goes on and on about executive privileged documents and requests a special master review of those privileged docs. However, any document to which executive privilege applies must be a presidential record and belongs to the people of the United States and not to Trump.

This filing is literally a confession to violating the presidential records act. That’s some good lawyering.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1442 "2022-08-22T23:30:19Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> A lawyer named ‘Trusty’, the screenwriters are getting lazy.

At least it’s not Dewey Cheatham and Howe!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1443 "2022-08-23T00:38:49Z")

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I’ve always perferred Boyd, Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1444 "2022-08-23T01:05:32Z")

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Trump had more than 300 classified documents according to the NY Times:

> **[Trump Had More Than 300 Classified Documents at Mar-a-Lago](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/22/us/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-documents.html)**
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> The National Archives found more than 150 sensitive documents when it got a first batch of material from the former president in January, helping to explain the Justice Department’s urgent response.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1445 "2022-08-23T01:10:19Z")

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Don’t tease me like that. Trump handling the case _pro se_… there’s not enough popcorn on earth…

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1446 "2022-08-23T01:28:39Z")

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The best two-line commentary on this motion yet:

[https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1561885297259921408?t=6G6j1qekjO0qdLVMXgNKYw&s=19](https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1561885297259921408?t=6G6j1qekjO0qdLVMXgNKYw&s=19)

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1447 "2022-08-23T02:26:04Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Trump handling the case _pro se_… there’s not enough popcorn on earth…

Not trying to give Trump ideas, but if that was pay per view I might be tempted.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1448 "2022-08-23T05:41:29Z")

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Two hours ago, Trump ally John Solomon published a heretofore unknown letter between the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) and Trump.

Legal Twitter is all up in arms over this passage:

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> which resulted in the transfer of 15 boxes of records to NARA in January 2022. In its initial review of materials within those boxes, NARA identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including _ **Sensitive Compartmented Information** _ and _ **Special Access Program** _ materials.  
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> According to NARA, among the materials in the boxes are over 100 documents with classification markings, comprising more than 700 pages. Some include the highest levels of classification, including Special Access Program (SAP) materials.

(emphasis mine, JT).

There is no weasling in the letter: the items weren’t Trump’s, national security was compromised just by Trump having these documents, and the archivist flatly rejected the same flimsy excuses bandied about today.

> **[Full text of National Archives letter to Trump on classified documents](https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/full-text-national-archives-letter-trump-classified-documents)**
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> Just the News has obtained the full text of the letter that the National Archives sent to former President Donald Trump requesting classified documents

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1449 "2022-08-23T07:56:19Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump had more than 300 classified documents according to the NY Times:

And according to the article’s sources, in late 2021 — before turning over the initial batch — he went through all of them with his own tiny hands. If true, would that pretty much shitcan any “inadvertent” or “unintentional” defense?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1450 "2022-08-23T08:33:00Z")

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Sounds great, but I have trouble beleving that tanTrump read 700 pages. Ever.  
Except, perhaps, as a teenager, those magazines you hold with one hand.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1451 "2022-08-23T13:30:19Z")

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Bet he can’t read without moving his lips and sounding out the big words.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1452 "2022-08-23T13:40:02Z")

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How many pages is the Big Book of Hitler’s Speeches? Supposedly CFSG’s bedtime reading.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1453 "2022-08-23T13:45:50Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Bet he can’t read without moving his lips and sounding out the big words

Hopefully “Yosemite” isn’t one of them.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1454 "2022-08-23T13:46:58Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Bet he can’t read without moving his lips and sounding out the big words.

To be fair, he once put together a jigsaw puzzle in 3 hours even though the box said 2-4 years.

His lawsuit reads as though he insisted on including frivolous stuff like how he’s the favorite for the 2024 nomination and how the FBI has treated him “very unfairly”.

This looks like an open and shut case. He had documents that do not belong to him that could jeopardize national security. He was told they were not his to take with him but he still did. He was asked to return them and failed to do so. Sure they need to take fingerprints of every page to see how many grubby fingers have handled them. But damn this alone should put him in a federal pound me in the ass prison.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1455 "2022-08-23T13:56:23Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> How many pages is the Big Book of Hitler’s Speeches? Supposedly CFSG’s bedtime reading.

No, I think he reads the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. He just never got to the Fall part of the book yet.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1456 "2022-08-23T14:30:49Z")

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😂😂😂😂😂

Two of the lawyers mentioned above, Trusty and Cocoran, filed a petition to represent their client in Federal Court.

Tragically, they filed this standard form incorrectly and have been instructed to do so again:

> <https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1562083251291934721?t=XDoidvaNV-p6zNxK7-aBfA&s=19>

Long story short, until this is resolved, only 1 of Trump’s attorneys can appear in front of Federal Court to argue his case.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1457 "2022-08-23T14:31:49Z")

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Who could’ve known lawyering would be so complicated?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1458 "2022-08-23T14:55:22Z")

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Btw, look at this from the first page of that motion:

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52306176648_4799e32c78_b.jpg "Screenshot\_20220823-095249\_Drive") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52306176648/)

He officially declared himself as not a candidate. And he asserted he is still undecided about 2024. Thanks!

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Moderating:

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> But damn this alone should put him in a federal pound me in the ass prison.

Let’s refrain from the prison rape jokes. Thanks.

No warning issued.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1460 "2022-08-23T14:59:33Z")

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Thanks for your discretion and my apologies.

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