# FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329 "2022-08-08T23:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1601 "2022-08-25T15:52:26Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump is freaking out on Truth Social. A link to a tweet follows, the tweet containing screenshots of his TS posts.
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> I find the end of the third one particularly interesting as he appears to switch to present, even future tense. Sounds like he got some sort of notification or something:

I am insanely intrigued by this and have been methodically checking various news sources ever since you posted, hoping to see something - anything- is happening that would send him into a panicked rant. Fingers crossed!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1602 "2022-08-25T16:14:13Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> It’s the only instance of number, numberA in the list. Are these things related? How?

It could be something as simple as they were found jammed together in the same envelope, caused by the staffer grabbing stuff to load into the boxes without sorting.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1603 "2022-08-25T16:16:33Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump is freaking out on Truth Social. A link to a tweet follows, the tweet containing screenshots of his TS posts.

Just to let you know, Twitter no longer allows people to view Tweets unless they join up. I’m not prepared to do this, so when you post these links, there is no way to learn what you’re talking about. It seems to be a recent change.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1604 "2022-08-25T16:20:57Z")

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I’ve noticed that as well. I get about 30 seconds to try to read it, and then a big blocking blue bird telling me to sign up.

Not a loss for me personally; I’ve never found Twitter all that helpful.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1605 "2022-08-25T16:30:16Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> I am insanely intrigued by this and have been methodically checking various news sources ever since you posted, hoping to see something - anything- is happening that would send him into a panicked rant. Fingers crossed!

Well, let’s read that last one again, see if there are any clues…

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52309579512_a2e8713c7e_b.jpg "20220825\_112621") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52309579512/)

Hmmmm. You know, has _anybody_ mentioned FISA in all this?

What does FISA involve itself with?

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52310304486_a8cdee48c9_b.jpg "20220825\_112551") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52310304486/)

Curiouser and curiouser. “Agent of foreign power”, eh? “Foreign Intelligence Information”, hmmm?

ETA: LOL

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52310319081_f1a4fb2047_b.jpg "20220825\_113214") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52310319081/)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1606 "2022-08-25T16:32:21Z")

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See, this is why lawyers tell their client to shut up.

It probably is also why Trump is having trouble getting lawyers.

Thanks for posting the full thing, **JohnT**.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1607 "2022-08-25T16:32:25Z")

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That is an interesting deconstruction, but FISA is a general boogey-man, and it is possible that it just bubbled to the top of the fetid pool that is TFG’s brain.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1608 "2022-08-25T16:42:05Z")

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Thanks, @JohnT. Sorry for the extra work, but I’m glad to read these.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1609 "2022-08-25T16:47:30Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> It could be something as simple as they were found jammed together in the same envelope, caused by the staffer grabbing stuff to load into the boxes without sorting.

Could be, but if that’s case it seems very weird that this is the only instance of this occurring in the receipt for property.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1610 "2022-08-25T16:47:33Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> FISA is a general boogey-man, and it is possible that it just bubbled to the top of the fetid pool that is TFG’s brain.

I am curious if we have any conclusive answer on whether the Mar-a-Lago cameras were on or off during the search?

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1611 "2022-08-25T16:58:31Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Thanks, @JohnT. Sorry for the extra work, but I’m glad to read these.

+1, @JohnT.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1612 "2022-08-25T17:06:04Z")

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He sounds so presidential. He is the very model of a modern major general.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1613 "2022-08-25T17:07:55Z")

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Isn’t Macron some kind of liaison to Ukraine or somthing? With Trump’s fealty to Putin, maybe something fishy there?

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1614 "2022-08-25T17:25:24Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I’ve noticed that as well. I get about 30 seconds to try to read it, and then a big blocking blue bird telling me to sign up.

If you offer to sign in (or sign up), you get a different dialog box and that one can be closed (X in the upper left corner) and then you can read a certain amount of the thread of responses.  
Now there is just an extra step to view the thread of responses.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1615 "2022-08-25T17:28:15Z")

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New info from WaPo:

> <https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1562847275080192000?t=PDyC4couUNjEYY1N6_ezcQ&s=19>

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1616 "2022-08-25T17:32:17Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> He sounds so presidential. He is the very model of a modern major general.

He has information ve-ge-ta-ble, animal, and mineral. And knows more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1617 "2022-08-25T17:37:49Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I just don’t get it. Why on earth did they think releasing that letter would help? It just shows that the Archives have been very methodical in trying to retrieve the documents, for months now,

I think it shows exactly how much they really believe they’re in the right. Trump and his cronies have spent so long delaying every single legal proceeding against them, they really believe that they deserve to have as much time as they want to drag their feet on things. Their whole position seems to be, “They didn’t give us the extra time we asked them for! They’re oppressing us!!”

Just entitlement, is all. So entitled they can’t see it, and it never occured to them that anyone else would see it as entitlement. They really expected us all to be disgusted that they weren’t given every extension they’d asked for.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1618 "2022-08-25T17:40:39Z")

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Yeah the FISA part of the tweet-knockoff (i’m sure as hell not calling it a 'Truth") is referencing the issues with the [Carter Page survelance warrant](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/two-4-warrants-letting-fbi-spy-ex-trump-aide-carter-n1121406). Which according to Trumpists debunks the whole Russian election interference scandal as nothing but a partisan witch hunt.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1619 "2022-08-25T17:42:30Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> tweet-knockoff (i’m sure as hell not calling it a 'Truth")

“Tweef”?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022-case-dismissed-july-15-2024/969329/1620 "2022-08-25T17:53:05Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> the [Carter Page survelance,](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/two-4-warrants-letting-fbi-spy-ex-trump-aide-carter-n1121406). Which according to Trumpists debunks the whole Russian scandal as nothing but a partisan witch hunt.

To summarize the Horowitz Report on the subject:

The FBI filed a proper request to surveil Page that was accepted by a Republican-appointed judge. The basis for this was, effectively, that the guy had admitted, on the record, that he was a foreign agent and that he was actively moving around Russia, meeting with questionable people. As time went on, and they needed to extend the warrant, they received information making Page seem less relevant to anything and also information making Page seem more relevant to everything and, with the two canceling each other out, rather than updating the requests to the judge they kept filing the same form that they started with, without any significant updates. They _should have_ included this other information, so that the judge could make the determination that it all balanced out, rather than them (the FBI/DOJ) deciding it for him.

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