# FBI to label trans activism as violent extremism in wake of Charlie Kirk's death
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 19, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191 "2025-09-19T16:18:13Z")
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### Author:  [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/1 "2025-09-19T16:18:13Z")
The FBI is using the belief that Charlie Kirk’s partner was transgender as an excuse to label all trans activism as violent extremism. Things are about to get extremely bad in America.
> **[FBI to Categorize Trans People As "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" Threat...](https://www.them.us/story/trump-admin-fbi-trans-nihilistic-violent-extremists-terrorist)**
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> The choice is being championed by the Heritage Foundation, which is behind Project 2025.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/2 "2025-09-19T16:24:44Z")
Things are _already_ extremely bad. They’re going to get much worse.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/3 "2025-09-19T16:26:45Z")
> Despite no evidence linking an alleged trans roommate to Robinson’s motivation for shooting Kirk, right-wingers are nevertheless attempting to use this detail to push an anti-trans agenda. In a petition launched on Thursday, the Heritage Foundation — the far-right think tank behind the derided and controversial Project 2025 — and its spin-off group, the Oversight Project, asked the FBI to designate “Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism” (TIVE) as a domestic terrorism threat category.
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> The group defines “TIVE” as “the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community],” **as well as the belief that opposing trans rights “itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]… or poses an imminent threat to such persons’ emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide.”**
How dare those terrorists correctly identify the goals of those opposing trans rights!
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/4 "2025-09-19T16:27:35Z")
My two-word response to all those that support Trump and his lackies, on and off the board:
_ **Fuck You** _
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### Author:  [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/5 "2025-09-19T17:03:32Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> > Despite no evidence
Evidence is woke. /s
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/6 "2025-09-19T17:07:07Z")
I presume they would have had Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan shot.
[We need not raise the comparable question about the African-American pursuit of equal rights. We _know_ how they dealt with _that_ one.]
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/7 "2025-09-19T17:11:25Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> [We need not raise the comparable question about the African-American pursuit of equal rights. We _know_ how they dealt with _that_ one.]
Dear FBI,
Could you please do something about these terrorists that oppose lynchings and church bombings and they’re leader Martin Lucifer Coon?
Thank you,
Grand Dragon Kleagle Joe Bob
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### Author:  [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/9 "2025-09-19T22:59:35Z")
Are you being sarcastic?
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### Author:  [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/10 "2025-09-19T23:00:39Z")
It’s been flagged. Equating transgenderism with mental illness and terrorism is hate speech.
ETA: And no I did not detect any sarcasm there.
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/11 "2025-09-19T23:01:10Z")
Based on some of his recent posts praising Dear Leader I’m assuming that, no, he’s not sarcastic or kidding. It has been flagged. Let the mods deal with it.
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### Author:  [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/12 "2025-09-19T23:03:13Z")
This is fucking bullshit.
Plenty of people know a trans person or even have one in their family. Will all those disengaged people really stay disengaged when ‘_ **asking for rights makes you a terrorist** _’ is this regime’s message?
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### Author:  [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/14 "2025-09-19T23:11:44Z")
You are a troll and you are not going to last here long.
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/15 "2025-09-19T23:13:27Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Plenty of people know a trans person or even have one in their family. Will all those disengaged people really stay disengaged when ‘_ **asking for rights makes you a terrorist** _’
No; they’ll just be accused of collaborating with terrorists and imprisoned.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/16 "2025-09-19T23:14:10Z")
> [@Fla\_Pamfuh](#):
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> Gender dysphoria is in the DSM-V
Transgenderism, which is a snarl word not an actual thing, is not just gender dysphoria.
~~Try again before you’re banned trock.~~ Too late!
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### Author:  [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/17 "2025-09-20T00:42:36Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Transgenderism, which is a snarl word not an actual thing, is not just gender dysphoria.
Apologies to the board for using the trolls word. I didn’t know if that was a real word or not as I had never heard it before and it sounded weird to me anyway. I should have known better.
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### Author:  [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2025, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/18 "2025-09-20T00:56:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> My two-word response to all those that support Trump and his lackies, on and off the board:
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> _ **Fuck You** _
… and Putin’s horse that they rode in on…
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/19 "2025-09-20T00:59:10Z")
Just so you know,
> ### “Transgenderism”
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> The current, popularized usage of the term “transgenderism” arises from anti-trans extremists who seek to delegitimize and dehumanize transgender people by falsely implying that being transgender is an ideology rather than an identity.
> (See [here](https://juliaserano.medium.com/the-history-of-the-word-transgenderism-55fd9bbf65cc) for a longer history of the term’s usage.)
> **[Transgenderism: Definition, Meaning, and Origin in Anti-LGBTQ Hate | GLAAD](https://glaad.org/transgenderism-definition-meaning-anti-lgbt-online-hate/)**
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> What does “transgenderism” mean? This guide explains some of the most prevalent anti-LGBTQ terms and concepts.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/20 "2025-09-20T01:53:08Z")
So, asking in all sincerity here, what is the proper word for “the phenomenon of the existence of transgender people”?
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/21 "2025-09-20T01:58:08Z")
Is there a word for “The phenomenon of the existence of non-transgender people”?
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-to-label-trans-activism-as-violent-extremism-in-wake-of-charlie-kirks-death/1023191/22 "2025-09-20T02:00:36Z")
If one needed such a word, then presumably its construction would be parallel to the one I asked for, but with “trans” replaced by “cis”.
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