# FCC fines robocaller $120 million

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 11, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007 "2018-05-11T19:34:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/1 "2018-05-11T19:34:17Z")

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[FCC fines robocaller $120 million for making nearly 100 million calls](https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2018/05/11/robocaller-fined-120-million-fcc-nearly-100-million-spoofed-calls/601287002/)

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> The FCC initially levied the fine against Adrian Abramovich, doing business as Marketing Strategy Leaders, in June 2017 alleging his business used “neighborhood spoofing” technology to include local area codes and the first three numbers of the recipient’s own phone number to encourage people to answer robocalls.

I’d like to think this will do some good, but I’m too much of a realist.

OTOH, I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten a few dozen calls starting out, “Congratulations for your recent stay at one of our resorts, you qualify…” and it sounds like this the the asswipe responsible. I’ll just have to wait and see if there are any more.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/2 "2018-05-11T19:38:01Z")

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Not nearly enough. Needs to be complete confiscation of all assets, torture, then the elimination of his entire line unto the third generation.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/3 "2018-05-11T19:42:04Z")

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I get these goddamn “neighborhood” calls all the time cept it never works because I still have my Indiana area code, but live in Florida. When I see 260 and it’s not my parents I just ignore it.

I wonder how many people it DOESN’T work on like me…

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/4 "2018-05-11T20:29:52Z")

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Go after the customers of said telemarketers too. IME most of them are shadier than the telemarketers.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/5 "2018-05-11T20:48:08Z")

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I knew a actual real life pimp who decided to retire because his favorite girl wanted ot get married have kids and such …So he became a telemarketer …he told me more than once that people had more respect for pimps than telemarketer ,

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/6 "2018-05-11T20:52:15Z")

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Yup, that’s me, too. If I get a call from Montana, it’s either the alumni office, a wrong number, or a scam. But calls from the Cleveland area are all legitimate.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/7 "2018-05-11T21:07:28Z")

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I hope they fined him extra for that stupid man bun.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/8 "2018-05-11T21:27:47Z")

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> [@drachillix](#):
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> Go after the customers of said telemarketers too. IME most of them are shadier than the telemarketers.

I don’t get it. “Customers” are usually victims of crooked comeons. How do they become shady for being gullible?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/9 "2018-05-11T21:37:55Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> I don’t get it. “Customers” are usually victims of crooked comeons. How do they become shady for being gullible?

The robocall guy was providing his service to Mexico-based operations that were taking the calls if anyone responded, and selling holidays or timeshares. Those operations were the customers of the robocall guy (they paid him), not the recipients of the phone calls.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/10 "2018-05-11T22:19:10Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not nearly enough. Needs to be complete confiscation of all assets, torture, then the elimination of his entire line unto the third generation.

Since he probably can’t pay, I’m sure some CIA torturer is getting rusty and needs someone to practice on.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/11 "2018-05-11T22:29:16Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Since he probably can’t pay, I’m sure some CIA torturer is getting rusty and needs someone to practice on.

They should issue him with an old rotary dial phone, and have him call everyone personally to apologize.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/12 "2018-05-11T22:54:10Z")

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Unfortunately, Rachel/Heather/etc from cardholder services is still at large.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/13 "2018-05-11T23:36:19Z")

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“If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, send one dollar to: Sorry Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. You have the power!”

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/14 "2018-05-11T23:45:28Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> “If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, send one dollar to: Sorry Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. You have the power!”

So, let’s see, the postage to send a one pound box of pressurized semiliquid human feces would be…

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/15 "2018-05-12T00:27:34Z")

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How dare anyone suggest torture, when suffocation in nitrogen is a completely ethical method for disposing of unwanted telemarketers?

Part of me does think that the death penalty is a completely reasonable penalty for people that steal thousands of man-years of lifetime from others. People get it for taking only 50 years of life from others; why is it different when the time is stolen a minute at a time?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/16 "2018-05-12T00:47:38Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> Part of me does think that the death penalty is a completely reasonable penalty for people that steal thousands of man-years of lifetime from others. People get it for taking only 50 years of life from others; why is it different when the time is stolen a minute at a time?

An interesting argument. If he wasted 10 seconds of time per call, that’s around 30 years. So punish him as if had held one person against their will in his basement for 30 years.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/17 "2018-05-12T02:24:41Z")

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I’m evil. Accept it.

I’ve been told that my calls come up “Probably Spam” just because it has an 800 number, so they were (totally justifiably) reluctant to pick up. WTF? It’s supposed to come up with the name of a company they already do business with so their blanket Do Not Call registration still is ignored. I’ve also been asked, “Are you a robot?” No, ma’am, and I even wrote this script myself so I’d sound less robotic.

For reasons I can’t go back to work until August, but I have savings and only need to last another 13 months before I get my full Social Security, which pays better. I’m in no rush.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/18 "2018-05-12T05:28:26Z")

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I had T-Mobile for a while and then switched back to Sprint, huge mistake as soon as I did that I started getting like a million robocalls a day, I think the two companies are also undergoing a merger. Anyway I get all the fake local calls and even same first six digits as my number calls constantly, probably sometimes 20 a day. I signed up for the Do-Not-Call list and gave it a month like it said and the call volume from telemarketers and scammers has, if anything.

Hanging is too good for them in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/19 "2018-05-12T05:49:08Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I’m evil. Accept it.
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> I’ve been told that my calls come up “Probably Spam” just because it has an 800 number, so they were (totally justifiably) reluctant to pick up. WTF? It’s supposed to come up with the name of a company they already do business with so their blanket Do Not Call registration still is ignored. I’ve also been asked, “Are you a robot?” No, ma’am, and I even wrote this script myself so I’d sound less robotic.

No, it comes up as probably spam because lots of people who got your calls and didn’t want them reported them as such.  
When PG&E mass calls to report a flex alert, I’m sure they call from an 800 number and it never gets blocked. They also leave a message. Do you?

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fcc-fines-robocaller-120-million/814007/20 "2018-05-12T11:32:41Z")

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There are two possibilitiesl

Abramovich has less than 120-mill and just laughed.  
Abramovich has more than 120-mill and just laughed.

And one certainty. He’ll be back in business soon.

And one impossibility. He will sped one minute in jail.

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