# FCCC going after cable and satellite radio

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 15, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520 "2005-04-15T18:44:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/21 "2005-04-16T23:22:38Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> If you subscribe to cable, what do you care whether you’re watching your local TV station or a cable network? They both get to your set through the same wire.

But the thing is, I am paying extra for the subscription to get content I don’t get over-the-air. Otherwise why pay for it. So yeah, it does sound suspiciously like an attempt to hobble the competition of the mainstream conglomerates. Already they force the CATV providers to carry every penny-ante local TV station in howevermany miles around.

Of course, the simplest answer for parents is, _don’t get XM/Sirius on your **built-in** car radio_. Get it for a detachable plug-in unit that you keep wityh yourself or better yet, don’t get it, period, you can live without it.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/22 "2005-04-16T23:40:10Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> XM/Sirius on your **built-in** car radio\*. Get it for a detachable plug-in unit that you keep wityh yourself or better yet, don’t get it, period, you can live without it.

Or lock the offending stations out. XM can and will lock out any station you want for any receiver. For example, if you want your radio to have full access, but you only want the kids to have access to a set list of stations you could, in theory, get XM to lock out all the other stations on that receiver. Then all you have to do is keep the receivers straight. If the kid is young, you can at least (on the Delphi SkiFi at least) remove the stations you don’t want from the main scroll. I did it with a whole bunch of stations I never listen to, though if for some reason I want to listen to one, I can either punch in the station number or go through the submenus to get it.

I’ve never understood most of the problems some people seem to have. For those who want to use TV as a babysitter and never pay attention to what the kids watch, Congress forced through the ratings system on TV and any new TV will have a V-chip to block any programming coming through higher than a level set. Most DVD players can do the same thing with movie ratings encoded into the DVD. Of course, eventually a smart kid will find a way around it, but it’d take time to break even the simple 4-digit numeric password protecting V-chip and DVD-player settings, especially if you had to brute-force it and the parent didn’t use something really obvious.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/23 "2005-04-16T23:56:53Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> What is the third ‘C’ for?

Thats a typo. BYOBB

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/24 "2005-04-18T15:42:56Z")

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So **Sleepygirl** , is what the President said what you think you heard – that he beleives that there ought to be standards so people can judge content but that ultimately the decision ought to be made by the marketplace?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/25 "2005-04-19T00:24:28Z")

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Moving this from IMHO to The BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/26 "2005-04-19T00:37:27Z")

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This can’t happen. If satellite and cable content can be restricted, why not Hollywood too? A rating system and V-chip is as far as it needs to go.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/27 "2005-04-19T02:25:27Z")

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> [@manhattan](#):
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> So **Sleepygirl** , is what the President said what you think you heard – that he beleives that there ought to be standards so people can judge content but that ultimately the decision ought to be made by the marketplace?

Doesn’t the imposition of standards remove the decision from the marketplace?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/28 "2005-04-19T02:39:02Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Doesn’t the imposition of standards remove the decision from the marketplace?

I think the idea is to charitably assume that “standards” means non-obligation-bearing ratings, like film certificates but without any legal standing. Why we might need the government to tell us the content of a particular program is beyond me, however, since IME broadcasters go out of their way to let you know exactly what’s coming (I say this having just been lightly traumatised by a trailer for PLASTIC SURGERY LIVE!!!). All a non-binding classification system would prove is that the classifiers make bizarre and prudish classifications of no real informational value to anyone. On the other hand, it might lead to some more of those entertaining warnings (“and now the News, which is rated DUH for severe intellectual stunting, and contains language, moderate peril and slime.”).

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/29 "2005-04-19T02:44:29Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Cocksuckers.

_Hey_!

I resemble that remark!

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**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/30 "2005-04-19T02:47:49Z")

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> [@brianjedi](#):
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> This has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with campaign donations. Clear Channel (and to a lesser extent, Viacom/Infinity Broadcasting) sees the traction that XM and Sirius are getting with consumers, and they’re scared. They’ve built these broadcasting empires, and now people are starting to move away from the 20 minutes of commercials and 5-song playlists that dominate terrestrial radio.
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> Stern and Opie & Anthony having the freedom of satellite radio means people won’t be listening to the local terrestrial stations.
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> Cable/satellite TV is getting caught up in this because there’s no way to regulate satrad without hitting TV, too. But when they try to come for HBO, the American public will lash out with a fury.

Personally, I think you got it in one. I think it has everything to do with satellite radio/Internet, and cable/sat TV is just getting caught up in the backlash/extension of the issue.

The 5 media corporations that control the majority of broadcast media aren’t worried about Cable/Satellite TV, because they’ve already got their hand in deep there. Satellite radio and Internet, not so much. And performers _and_ consumers are starting to take both their talent and consumer dollars to places the media corporations don’t yet hold sway. Can’t be having that, no sir.

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/31 "2005-04-19T06:25:32Z")

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Isn’t it odd that the party that’s all about federal deregulation of industry is all for the fedreal regulation of the Cable industry?

Odd.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/32 "2005-04-19T12:07:46Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> What is the third ‘C’ for?

**C** an’t type…

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fccc-going-after-cable-and-satellite-radio/299520/33 "2005-04-19T19:15:02Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Moving this from IMHO to The BBQ Pit.

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> Originally Posted by adam yax  
> What is the third ‘C’ for?

Cunt.

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