# FEAR ME: I'm a Jew! or \*sigh\* WB strikes again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 2, 2001, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008 "2001-10-02T18:03:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/101 "2001-10-03T15:56:23Z")
> [@](#): > > I see my initials on yet another pit thread. This time is for complimenting Jews and their business savy and what accomplished they have made with Gods help and guidence. Jews and their business savvy? **Bill** , you’re just turning a good spin on the old slur that Jews are only interested in money. Jews are people; some are good at business, and some suck at it. Think about it; if Jews are so great at business, why is Israel not dominating the world’s financial markets? In general, statements that are equivalent to “All members of group X possess property Y” are crap. (Note that I prefaced my sentence with “in general” to avoid a meta-contradiction.)Should I say “All Texans are uneducated” just because you are a Texan? In addition to my list in the previous post, Mel Brooks has shown us that you can be Native American and Jewish (_Hat die gesehen in deine Leiden?_ Dey darker dan us, woof!). **Andros** , nifty Life of Brian reference! ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/102 "2001-10-03T16:01:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by cuautemhoc > > ## quote: > > Originally posted by Revtim > > ## Jodi’s right, why on Earth are you offended at compliments? > > Obviously, only negative stereotypes are harmful. I mean, take the Polish people, for example: Great fighters! I once saw this Pole I knew knock this other dude right on his ass! And the dude was twice his size too! Great fighters, the Polish people, you do not want to piss one of these guys off. > > Not that I’m saying they have bad tempers, I’m just saying that you want to watch yourself around them because when they fly off the handle… whoo boy! And I mean this in the most complimentary way - excellent fighters, these people. Which is exactly why I wouldn’t want my sister to marry one. > > Now do not get me wrong, I would never insinuate that all Poles are wife-beaters, that’s exactly the type of negative stereotyping that’s responsible for all the hate and ignorance in the world. Not to mention that Polish women handle their Polish husbands might-ty well thank you very much! 'Cause they’re just as tough as the guys! > > No, obviously I’m not saying that Polish women are masculine, all I said was that they keep their men in line. Not all of them, sure. But centuries of having to deal with these violent (in a good way) men just has to have had an effect on the Polish female, both mentally and physically. The Poles are strong, capable people with a real knack for a good fight, which is a trait that can be every bit as beneficial as attractiveness, intelligence, or strong thighs. So get off the P.C. bandwagon, people! Just like any idiot can see I have nothing against the Polish people, Wildest Bill obviously has nothing against Jews, so where’s the harm This has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever read on this board. I like it so much, I’m probably going to bookmark this thread so I can read it whenever I want! ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/103 "2001-10-03T16:05:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > **your Sfardim** I got in so much trouble over them… I was in Hebrew School (the Jewish equivilant of Sunday School) and about oh…9 years old, and the teacher asked “Who can tell me anything about Sfardic Jews?” and, being a smart-mouthed 9 year old, I piped up with the helpful comment “Jews that eat lots of beans and Sfart.” I got sent to the Rabbi to explain what I had said. The Rabbi, being one of the all-time cool Rabbis ever, thought it was actually pretty funny and told me not to say stuff like that again around people who it’ll upset. All-time great advice. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/104 "2001-10-03T16:07:03Z")
Gosh gobear you took what I said out of context. I was just using the business savy as one of the examples of them being God’s chosen people. They are good at lots of things. I have many good friends that are Jewish and they are extremely smart. I have learned much from them. And they are willing to share their wisdom and are very kind. And I agree not “all” Jews are smart. I don’t think Barak for example was that smart. I think he was giving away the farm so to speak that is rightfully theirs(imho no need to flame me this is my opinion once again) just so he could achieve peace with a man that doesn’t want peace. Poly, Would you please step in here and tell me if I am out line with the Jews being God’s chosen people the Gentiles being second according to the Bible? I don’t think I am though. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/105 "2001-10-03T16:08:10Z")
So **Bill** finally notices the thread. _sigh_ Why did I think that was going to be his reaction? Well, **Bill** , since I’m your financial and business superior why don’t you send me a check? Whatever you have. Look, you **know** you can’t resist my negotiating skills. You just don’t have it in you. So let’s cut out the middle man and just give it all up now! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/106 "2001-10-03T16:13:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shayna \* > I love that Judaism is the only religion (according to my Rabbi - if he was wrong, someone will correct me, I’m sure) that doesn’t have a “creed.” I was hesitant to jump in with minor corrections here… but since Shayna said it, let me just second the motion. While there may well be some other religion that doesn’t have a creed, Judiasm is the only mainstream, world-wide ethical (as opposed to mystical) religion. There is no _mitzvah_ telling you what to believe - only _mitzvot_ telling you what to **do**. What you believe is up to you – indeed, someone who doesn’t believe in God, but follows the commandments, stands just as high as the Chief Rabbi of Israel. Oh, and as long as I’m posting… **LaurAnge** , your children will be bat or bar mitzvah at 12 or 13, regardless of their opposition, violent or otherwise. They, or you, may choose not to have a party, read the Scroll, or receive gifts. But a boy is automatically _bar mitzvah_ on his thirteenth birthday, by definition. - Rick ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/107 "2001-10-03T16:15:29Z")
[Broadway hijack] I’m just waiting for someone to break out a chorus of "If I Were A Rich Man,"and if we’re going to do _Fiddler On The Roof_, I get to play Tzeitel, Hodel, or Chava! _Matchmaker, matchmaker Make me a match Find me a find, Catch me a catch Matchmaker, matchmaker Look in your book, And make me the perfect match!_ [/Broadway hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/108 "2001-10-03T16:20:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*So **Bill** finally notices the thread. > > _sigh_ > > Why did I think that was going to be his reaction? > > Well, **Bill** , since I’m your financial and business superior why don’t you send me a check? Whatever you have. > > Look, you **know** you can’t resist my negotiating skills. You just don’t have it in you. So let’s cut out the middle man and just give it all up now! \*\* Ok what’s the address? 😃 But seriously, sorry I took so long to respond to your post. I in all honesty did not mean anything disrespectful about the Jewish people. ::a little coyness here:: Maybe you are just one of those people that need to learn how to take a compliment. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/109 "2001-10-03T16:24:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > I’m just waiting for someone to break out a chorus of "If I Were A Rich Man,"and if we’re going to do _Fiddler On The Roof_, I get to play Tzeitel, Hodel, or Chava! Are you more attracted to Jewish tailors, socialist revolutionaries, or Russian field workers? - Rick ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/110 "2001-10-03T16:27:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Are you more attracted to Jewish tailors, socialist revolutionaries, or Russian field workers? I’ll take those brawny Heroes of Socialist Labor on Stalin-era posters! Mmmmm, Commie muscle guys! ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/111 "2001-10-03T16:28:12Z")
> [@](#): > > Gosh gobear you took what I said out of context. I was just using the business savy as one of the examples of them being God’s chosen people. Hmmm, am I the only one who got the mental image of slamming their head against a brick wall when I read this? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/112 "2001-10-03T16:30:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\* > Hmmm, am I the only one who got the mental image of slamming their head against a brick wall when I read this? \*\* No. Emphatically no. ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/113 "2001-10-03T16:34:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > Gosh gobear you took what I said out of context. I was just using the business savy as one of the examples of them being God’s chosen people. > > Hmmm, am I the only one who got the mental image of slamming their head against a brick wall when I read this? \*\* Yes, you are the only one proceed to slamming head against said brick wall. ::wondering if I can still use humor without being flamed for it?:: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/114 "2001-10-03T16:34:44Z")
^^ Now I know why I have such a headache… ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/115 "2001-10-03T16:46:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes, you are the only one proceed to slamming head against said brick wall You know **Bill** , I understand what the words mean individually, but together they don’t make sense. Hey! That’s it! That’s why we all think Bill is such an asshole…he really _is_ misunderstood. You see, he knows words from the English language, but he just doesn’t understand how they all fit together! Sure, he can figure out a few phrases that makes sense, but even an ape can learn how to sign hello, how are you? if given enough time. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/116 "2001-10-03T16:53:02Z")
**Wildest Bill** , do you think it would be inappropriate for one to say “gosh, you people of color sure do have great rhythm”? Or “Gee, you Japanese are sure great at making electronic gizmos”? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/117 "2001-10-03T16:54:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by portajon \* > > \*\*Nope. It would be impossible to “remain” more ignorant. I could remain ignorant but more ignorant would have to imply time travel through which I would neglect to learn something I already know. Upon returning to the present I would be more ignorant. Other than that, no. \*\* > > Regardless of the semantics debate, apparently you _are_ growing dumber. The mind boggles at the idea of your already limited intellect collapsing into a sort of black whole of ignorance, which destroys all knowledge, and yet…here you are. > > In [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=89483&pagenumber=2) post you wrote > > > [@](#): > > > > do not know a single Jewish person nor have I ever questioned the US support of Israel until now. This is obvious in the op. I am most certainly not a bigot. I don’t know enough about Israel or Jews to have a reason to be one. > > and yet, here you are, verbal diarrhea spewing out of the loose sphincter that is your mouth, about something you admittedly know nothing about. > > Why don’t you crawl back under your bridge? > > Fenris \*\* Ok **WB** ONE MORE TIME Yes, you probably have met Jews before. We stopped wearing those little yellow stars about 60 years ago…THEY WERE GETTING US KILLED! We don’t run around introducing ourselves "Hi, I’m Miss Creant, Jew! Damn glad to meet you! Oy gevult, such a nar! ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/118 "2001-10-03T16:58:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes, you probably have met Jews before. We stopped wearing those little yellow stars about 60 years ago…THEY WERE GETTING US KILLED! IIRC, wearing little yellow stars wasn’t optional or the decision of the Jews. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/119 "2001-10-03T17:04:29Z")
I’d just like to point out that this thread- especially WB’s response- really echo’s this week’s Savage Love column. So let me get this straight, WB. When the Jews are successfull and do well, it is an obvious sign that God loves them and wants to protect them. When the Jews are persecuted and slaughtered, it is no comment upon the existence of God. Great racket, there. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/120 "2001-10-03T17:14:36Z")
**gobear** , I think the “gold stars” thing was a joke… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008.md?page=7)