# FEAR ME: I'm a Jew! or \*sigh\* WB strikes again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 2, 2001, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008 "2001-10-02T18:03:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/121 "2001-10-03T17:27:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Corrado \* > \*\*When the Jews are persecuted and slaughtered, it is no comment upon the existence of God. > Great racket, there. \*\* Actually, if I understand WB’s point, Jews being good businessmen and thriving=God’s existance Jews being persecusted and slaughtered=God’s existance [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=90571): > [@](#): > > I think the plight(I hope that is the right word I was looking for) of the Jews is sustantial evidence to back the Bible. I mean they are the most persecuted people I have ever seen. Yet they thrive and they whoop butt on so many hostile neigbors. So, since either way proves Bill’s God’s existance. Pretty spiffy, huh? Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/122 "2001-10-03T17:36:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\*I in all honesty did not mean anything disrespectful about the Jewish people. ::a little coyness here:: Maybe you are just one of those people that need to learn how to take a compliment. 😉 \*\* **Wildest Bill** , that is simply downright insulting. Maybe you’re just one of those people that needs to learn how to read. And **comprehend**. I’m going to make this as simple as possible, so pay close attention… Your comments with regard to Jews being savvy in business, etc. - **No matter HOW you meant them** - are, plainly and simply (this is where you have to read carefully) **NOT COMPLIMENTS**. Let’s let that absorb for a moment or two… **NOT COMPLIMENTS**. **NOT COMPLIMENTS**. **NOT COMPLIMENTS**. Ok. Have you accepted that fact yet? Now, go back and read through the thread to find out **why** these things are not considered compliments by the very people to whom you’re referring. Then, the decent thing to do would be to come back and apologize for inadvertantly and unintentionally insulting us. And then never do it again. Please, try not to “defend” yourself - try to actually **learn something** here. Thank you and have a nice day. * * * I really appreciate your consideration in avoiding stepping on my penis - **Spiny Norman** Jeg elsker dig, Thomas ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/123 "2001-10-03T17:49:05Z")
I knew there was a reason I loved you, **Shayna**. You bring it strong. And **John**? > [@](#): > > Great racket, there. Don’t think we haven’t tipped to this. He’s a tricky one, God is. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/124 "2001-10-03T17:54:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\ ***gobear** , I think the “gold stars” thing was a joke… \*\* …and give the little girl a prize!! ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/125 "2001-10-03T18:17:23Z")
Where are Chaim and Zev? Don’t they do Pit threads? [sub]And thanks to throatshot and pepperlandgirl for the recognition of my brilliant satirical post on page 1 :)[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/126 "2001-10-03T18:40:18Z")
Listen, I used the compliments(or the insults the way some people chose to take them) as an example of why the Jews are God’s chosen people. I understand y’all think they could be taken as insults but that is how some people want to take them. But if it really bother y’all to get compliments, I will try to be more careful about complimenting you. Secondly, the reason the Jews have been persecuted John C is that God allows that to happen to them when they start going their own way and away from God’s plan. Read the Old Testament it is all there. They would be faithful to God for a while then He would bless them they would rebel later and curses happened upon them. And I am not saying this only happens to Jews. Christians mess up too and start doing their own thing(look at me for example lots of bad things have been happening in my life lately) and God lets things happen to them to get their attention and focus back on the right way of living. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/127 "2001-10-03T18:54:13Z")
Yeah, those damned Jews, they just can’t take a compliment. He said that Jews were all super wheeler-dealers, and they all had to go and take it the wrong way. Sheesh. I suppose that when someone says that Jews all have enormous hooked noses and were responsible for the American slave trade, they’ll all take **that** the wrong way, too. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/128 "2001-10-03T19:05:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > \*\*Listen, > > I used the compliments(or the insults the way some people chose to take them) as an example of why the Jews are God’s chosen people. I understand y’all think they could be taken as insults but that is how some people want to take them. But if it really bother y’all to get compliments, I will try to be more careful about complimenting you. \*\* No, **you** listen. What part of “ **NOT COMPLIMENTS** ” didn’t you absorb? STOP refering to them as “the compliments” - THEY WEREN’T COMPLEMENTS. It is NOT that we “think” what you said could be “taken” as insults. We WERE insulted by your comments. And it’s NOT because we “want” to be. Do not TRY to be more “careful” about “complimenting” us. That is condescending and irritating. DO TRY to understand WHY (let me repeat that again - **WHY** ) you are NOT COMPLIMENTING us with those ridiculous generalizations. And if you really were using such absurdities as some sort of evidence “as an example of why the Jews are G-d’s chosen people,” then you are very poorly educated on the facts. Do a google search. I’d do it for you, but I’m too busy at work at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/129 "2001-10-03T19:06:02Z")
I didn’t say all Jews Pld just some on these boards. Secondly, being called a “super wheeler dealer”(as you referred to it) is not as bad as a big hooked noses responsible for the American slave trade as you did. Fenris, I am confused by your post. Do you not think the existence of your race is a testamony to the existence of God? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/130 "2001-10-03T19:11:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cuautemhoc \* > \*\*Where are Chaim and Zev? Don’t they do Pit threads? > \*\* Nah; they’re too good for it. You know what those GERMAN Jews are like, all stuck up and all. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/131 "2001-10-03T19:14:12Z")
**Bill** A. Judaism is not a race; it is a religion. B. Calling Jews “good at business” is not a compliment. I know you don’t understand why **Shayna** is so pissed off, but trust me, it is a huge insult, NOT a compliment. Here’s an example: I love the way you Texans all wear big cowboy hats and chew tobacco. The fact that all Texans are oil millionaires is a sign that you are God’s favored people. Now, was that really true of every Texan, from Lyle Lovett to Lady Bird Johnson? Do you see how generalizations can offend? C. Listen to what people are saying to you, and you will learn. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/132 "2001-10-03T19:14:44Z")
all I want to add at this point is that I refuse to believe that **WB** is an actual human. NO ONE is that obtuse! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/133 "2001-10-03T19:21:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miss Creant \* > \*\*NO ONE is that obtuse! \*\* Did you ever consider that he might be playing with you? ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/134 "2001-10-03T19:21:56Z")
Ok Gobear, I see what you are saying. I **really** didn’t mean to insult you Shayna. I will try to use the other talents and blessings God bestowed on y’all that would not be found offensive. Gobear back to your example, I really wouldn’t mind being referred to as a oil rich tycoon that wears a cowboy and chews tobacco(even though I don’t chew tobacco if I was rich in oil I would learn) but that is just me. 😉 But I still understood what you were getting at. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/135 "2001-10-03T19:27:14Z")
Alright, I did it anyway… [http://www.execulink.com/~wblank/chosen.htm](http://www.execulink.com/~wblank/chosen.htm) > [@](#): > > Jews have long been called “The Chosen People.” The term is actually quite accurate, but chosen for what, and why? > > Beginning with Abraham, we read, “and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed **because you have obeyed Me**.” (Genesis 22:18) Abraham was most certainly a righteous man. He had been tested and proven worthy of that description. Hmmm, nothing there about choosing Abraham because he was a good wheeler-dealer. Let’s continue, shall we? [http://www.leaderu.com/theology/whoisrael.html](http://www.leaderu.com/theology/whoisrael.html) > [@](#): > > Why Israel? > > **Not because of her worth** but because of God’s choice and her acceptance. Even within Judaism it is taught that **all the nations were offered the Mosaic covenant and Law yet only Israel was willing**. Most of the feasts allow strangers to attend and of the law it is said “there shall be one law for you and for the stranger in your midst.” **Israel was not chosen for her greatness but because of the faith of Abraham** and God’s promises to the patriarchs (Deuteronomy 7.6-9). (all emphasis mine.) Your notions have officially been debunked. And if you _still_ don’t get it, I wash my hands of you. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/136 "2001-10-03T19:27:54Z")
Why do we keep trying? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/137 "2001-10-03T19:35:37Z")
> [@](#): > > ## quote: > > ## Originally posted by Miss Creant NO ONE is that obtuse! > > Did you ever consider that he might be playing with you? If that’s the case then, in my not so humble opinion, he should be banned for being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/138 "2001-10-03T19:40:38Z")
I’ve been wondering that, too, **Esprix**. What I CAN say for Bill is that I can say whatever dumb shit I want and, if he’s also posting in that thread, nobody calls me on it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/139 "2001-10-03T19:43:47Z")
Shayna, Very good post and thank you for it. But I never said that God chose y’all because y’all were smart(other than you knew that he was the true God that should be worshipped). I know He chose you because y’all chose Him. I am just saying he bestowed His blessing of talents and wisdom to y’all for doing such. Does that make sense? I mean remember all the wisdom that he bestowed on Solomon? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2001, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008/140 "2001-10-03T19:49:04Z")
I fear **Bill** that you’ll only step in it again if you attempt to place **any** characterization upon a whole group of people. Consider this: A. I tell **Fenris** that I love his sense of humor, he seems bright and witty. B. I say to **Fenris** you know, Jewish men are so witty and bright, I just love your sense of humor. Which one is a compliment? hmmmm??? (by the way, I just **LOVE Fenris’s** sense of humor 'cause he personally is bright and witty, is of course the truth. 😃 ) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-me-im-a-jew-or-sigh-wb-strikes-again/85008.md?page=8)