# Fear the Walking Dead: 1.06 "The Good Man" (open spoilers)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 4, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562 "2015-10-04T23:28:40Z")
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### Author:  [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/1 "2015-10-04T23:28:40Z")
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As civil unrest grows, and the dead take over, Travis and Madison try to devise ways to protect their families.
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Season finale tonight, followed by a special episode of **Talking Dead** with Kim Dickens and Cliff Curtis guesting.
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### Author:  [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/2 "2015-10-05T01:36:36Z")
Nick needs to pull up his pants before they fall down while he’s running from zombies.
Yes, that has been bothering me for the past 40 minutes.
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### Author:  [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/3 "2015-10-05T02:13:36Z")
The last 20 minutes of this episode pulled it out – action and character development.
Loved Daniel Salazar again.
Also, [spoiler] I was afraid that we were going to lose Daniel Salazar to {justifiably} Angry Andy – glad he’s still around.
And Strand has a great house. I like him but wonder if he’s going to go off the rails when they’re on the yacht kind of freaks me out. [/spoiler]
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### Author:  [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/4 "2015-10-05T02:20:13Z")
…satisfaction.
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### Author:  [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/5 "2015-10-05T02:42:12Z")
One thing I wanted to see in this show was more threatening zombies, that look more alive and are faster and stronger and more agile. We got a bit of it with the principal tasking many head blows to go down, I wanted to see more of it.
They had the perfect chance and excuse to make them scarier and more dangerous in a logical fashion, no shambling lurching gait yet more like a brisk walking pace. Scarier because they look like a living person intent on biting you, harder to differentiate from the living too.
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### Author:  [@Dingbang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dingbang)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/6 "2015-10-05T03:09:46Z")
You’ve got to be kidding me. I tried hard to stay with this show all the way through and now they’ve taken characters that I was, at best, indifferent to and made me dislike every fucking one of them. They leave the neighborhood without telling anyone what’s up? Dick move number one.
They don’t even bother to close the fucking gate behind them? Dick move number two.
They lead a horde of zombies to overrun a secure facility and kill who knows how many people so they _might_ be able to get their loved ones? HUGE dick move number three.
Travis finally finds his balls and uses them to beat the shit out of Andrew??? Andrew, the mostly innocent victim of torture? Dick move number four.
Liza is the only one who got it right.
Not good when you dislike all the supposed protagonists. At this point I hope the whole lot of them become zombie chow.
Fucking writers… What a wasted premise.
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### Author:  [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/7 "2015-10-05T03:19:36Z")
Well, at least we finally got to see what they were conserving the zombie makeup budget for.
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### Author:  [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/8 "2015-10-05T03:32:13Z")
Made sense to me. You look out for your own. It weirded me out, though, to think of all the poor neighbors, living by candlelight, thinking the soldiers would protect them…
And finally, Travis finds a pair.
What will Mr. Strand turn out to be?
Surprisingly well done…
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### Author:  [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/9 "2015-10-05T03:33:28Z")
Ok, finally a scattering of character development and lots of zombies. Yay. But the _]unnecessary_ unrealities still bother me. The opening shows an overview of the dead city, blacked out except for scattered fires. Then focus tightens to the doors of the stadium, which are _illuminated by spotlights!_ Yes, I know the intent is to highlight foreboding, but come on! The incongruity burns.
Later soldiers with automatic weapons try to hold off the horde outside the fence, shooting hundreds of ineffective rounds. We all know anything but head shots are a waste, but so do the soldiers. They’re shooting at head level, firing in the plane of zombie heads, none of whom are bothering to duck. There should be lots of exploding heads and massive numbers of bodies dropping. Not that this would have stopped them, of course. But the more realistic scenario wouldn’t be zombies forcing through the fence. It would be the ones coming up from behind simply stepping onto the bodies of their predecessors until eventually the pile is so high they just step over the fence.
And what, no zombies in Ritzy Neighborhood, even without protection? Where is everybody, anyway? Oh well, maybe later I’ll watch Talking and see if there are any answers.
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### Author:  [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/10 "2015-10-05T03:33:48Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> Made sense to me. You look out for your own. It weirded me out, though, to think of all the poor neighbors, living by candlelight, thinking the soldiers would protect them…
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> And finally, Travis finds a pair.
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> What will Mr. Strand turn out to be?
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> Surprisingly well done…
Telling someone who could pass the info on to others would not have harmed them or impeded them.
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### Author:  [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/11 "2015-10-05T04:39:10Z")
> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Later soldiers with automatic weapons try to hold off the horde outside the fence, shooting hundreds of ineffective rounds. We all know anything but head shots are a waste, but so do the soldiers. They’re shooting at head level, firing in the plane of zombie heads, none of whom are bothering to duck. There should be lots of exploding heads and massive numbers of bodies dropping. Not that this would have stopped them, of course. But the more realistic scenario wouldn’t be zombies forcing through the fence. It would be the ones coming up from behind simply stepping onto the bodies of their predecessors until eventually the pile is so high they just step over the fence.
Given I didn’t see a single zombie die outside the fence, I assume chain link fences are bulletproof in this reality.
When mom with a hammer is killing more zombies than a company of soldiers, something is seriously wrong in the storytelling.
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### Author:  [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/12 "2015-10-05T05:02:14Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> The last 20 minutes of this episode pulled it out – action and character development.
> … [/spoiler]
Agree but still not sure it makes up for all the other stuff like was outlined in the following post. It was too slow a build-up to all this.
> [@Dingbang](#):
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> You’ve got to be kidding me. I tried hard to stay with this show all the way through and now they’ve taken characters that I was, at best, indifferent to and made me dislike every fucking one of them. They leave the neighborhood without telling anyone what’s up? Dick move number one.
> They don’t even bother to close the fucking gate behind them? Dick move number two.
> They lead a horde of zombies to overrun a secure facility and kill who knows how many people so they _might_ be able to get their loved ones? HUGE dick move number three.
> Travis finally finds his balls and uses them to beat the shit out of Andrew??? Andrew, the mostly innocent victim of torture? Dick move number four.
> Liza is the only one who got it right.
> Not good when you dislike all the supposed protagonists. At this point I hope the whole lot of them become zombie chow.
> Fucking writers… What a wasted premise.
Another dick move on Travis’ part was not immediately finding his son and telling him what happened instead of letting him find his mother’s body. Granted maybe we are supposed to think that when Chris found his mom Travis was still there and told him what’s up and then wandered off to have a nice cry in the surf but then why not add a few extra seconds to show some of that?
I had just been thinking that with all that hand to zombie action how did no one get bit, then Liza gives Chris that long hug and tells him she loves him and then wanders off and I knew she’d been bitten, figures since she was the only one with a useful skill.
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### Author:  [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/13 "2015-10-05T05:13:01Z")
I had hoped that we would learn more about the origins of the virus. Nothing.
Anyway, not sure why she needed to die at the end. They’re leaving anyway. Just leave her.
Is there going to be another season?
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### Author:  [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/14 "2015-10-05T05:30:02Z")
> [@Laggard](#):
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> I had hoped that we would learn more about the origins of the virus. Nothing.
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> Anyway, not sure why she needed to die at the end. They’re leaving anyway. Just leave her.
>
> Is there going to be another season?
Yes a second season has been confirmed.
That yacht will run out of fuel quick with no way to refuel, they need a sailing yacht. Also are you allowed to anchor and moor a yacht offshore like that? What about low tide?
Liza made me ANGRY, way to make a bad situation WORSE! Ok assuming you will turn in a few days, just restrain her or tie her to the bed posts. At least say goodbye to your damn son! My god, that whole thing was crazy they had plenty of time to kill her with no risk to them and allow her to say goodbye.
Did this episode contradict Kirkman’s word of god on the mechanics? A human bite causing sepsis is treatable with antibiotics, so there IS a special zombie organism.
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### Author:  [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/15 "2015-10-05T05:37:25Z")
Assuming the key worked for all the locked pens, they could have unlocked one and given the key to someone inside who was willing to unlock others.
This would not have delayed them more than a few seconds, and would have provided backup muscle and distraction if they ran into trouble or soldiers, two unarmed people are easy to force back into lockup. I’d have done it just for the cover should I run into soldiers, a hundred people are harder to corral than two.
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### Author:  [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/16 "2015-10-05T06:23:11Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> Nick needs to pull up his pants before they fall down while he’s running from zombies.
>
> Yes, that has been bothering me for the past 40 minutes.
He’s also been wearing the same clothes he stole from that old man episodes ago, you’d think when he got home Mom would hook him up with new duds.
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### Author:  [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/17 "2015-10-05T06:27:52Z")
> [@Dingbang](#):
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> They don’t even bother to close the fucking gate behind them? Dick move number two.
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> They lead a horde of zombies to overrun a secure facility and kill who knows how many people so they _might_ be able to get their loved ones? HUGE dick move number three.
>
> Travis finally finds his balls and uses them to beat the shit out of Andrew??? Andrew, the mostly innocent victim of torture? Dick move number four.
You and me my friend were on the same wavelength when it came to this. My wife theorized that Salazar somehow is getting into their minds and making them more cruel. Your right, three huge dick moves in a row.
ALSO, the final scene:
Why didn’t Travis just ask Salazar to pop a cap in his ex-wife’s skull? Surely as a former El Salvadoran toruturer, he’d have no problem doing it. Now Travis has to deal with his bitch son whining about it all during Season 2.
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### Author:  [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/18 "2015-10-05T06:29:54Z")
> [@](#):
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> Another dick move on Travis’ part was not immediately finding his son and telling him what happened instead of letting him find his mother’s body. Granted maybe we are supposed to think that when Chris found his mom Travis was still there and told him what’s up and then wandered off to have a nice cry in the surf but then why not add a few extra seconds to show some of that?
See my Spoiler reveal in the previous post 🙂
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### Author:  [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/19 "2015-10-05T06:32:55Z")
I actually love the idea of getting on Strands yacht. You can collect rainwater, fish all day, and live pretty well on it. Theres no chance the zombies are going swim out after you. And if they do, you cut the line and sail out.
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### Author:  [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2015, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-1-06-the-good-man-open-spoilers/733562/20 "2015-10-05T06:40:37Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> I actually love the idea of getting on Strands yacht. You can collect rainwater, fish all day, and live pretty well on it. Theres no chance the zombies are going swim out after you. And if they do, you cut the line and sail out.
Its the LA area, it might not rain for months at a time. The yacht is also a very visible magnet for human raiders/rapers. They also can’t refuel so they would need to stay in sight of shore when they run out, its a very visible sitting duck for humans.
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