# Fear the Walking Dead: 2.07 "Shiva" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422 "2016-05-23T00:12:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/81 "2016-06-02T16:02:08Z")
It would be fun to see the outbreak in various countries around the world. I was curious if it hit the whole world at once or started in the US. It seems Mexico closed its borders, which makes it seem more intact than the US. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/82 "2016-06-02T16:58:55Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > It would be fun to see the outbreak in various countries around the world. I was curious if it hit the whole world at once or started in the US. It seems Mexico closed its borders, which makes it seem more intact than the US. I would enjoy seeing that, as well. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/83 "2016-06-02T23:50:10Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Makes sense, plus they’re fresher than the two-year-old zombies in Walking Dead, not that that seems to make much difference. Maybe it’s climate based too. Does dry heat preserve zombies better than humid heat? FTWD’s zombies seem stronger than TWD’s ones from season 1. > [@gytalf2000](#): > > I loved the “World War Z” book. Haven’t seen the movie… Do yourself a favor and don’t watch the movie. > [@levdrakon](#): > > It would be fun to see the outbreak in various countries around the world. I was curious if it hit the whole world at once or started in the US. It seems Mexico closed its borders, which makes it seem more intact than the US. Weren’t there rumours of someone wanting to a spinoff set in the UK? That could be fun, provided most of the major roles are played by Americans pretending to be British. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/84 "2016-06-03T01:39:32Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Weren’t there rumours of someone wanting to a spinoff set in the UK? That could be fun, provided most of the major roles are played by Americans pretending to be British. We can have revenge on the Brits for pronouncing “Coral” as “Carl”! Sweet! ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/85 "2016-06-03T14:33:48Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Weren’t there rumours of someone wanting to a spinoff set in the UK? That could be fun, provided most of the major roles are played by Americans pretending to be British. Oh absolutely. Fair is fair. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/86 "2016-06-03T14:44:36Z")
There is a joke here about the British class system and zombies, but I got nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/87 "2016-06-03T14:45:54Z")
“One doesn’t bite _those_ people, Jeremy. It is quite simply not done. Do buck up, old man-er, corpse.” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/88 "2016-06-03T19:39:22Z")
Just occurred where the title came from. I was wondering “Was Tom Abigail Jewish?” because I thought it was a reference to holding shiva for him (and perhaps the guests in the wine cellar). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/89 "2016-06-03T19:51:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Just occurred where the title came from. The goddess of destruction. Is that a reference to the housekeeper? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/90 "2016-06-03T20:09:57Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > …Weren’t there rumours of someone wanting to a spinoff set in the UK? That could be fun, provided most of the major roles are played by Americans pretending to be British. (post shortened) The Queueing Dead? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/91 "2016-06-03T23:01:01Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > There is a joke here about the British class system and zombies, but I got nothin’. I once had a **Downton Abbey** / **Living Dead** crossover dream. The Crawleys were trying to hold a dinner party while the servants had to fend of zombies. Naturally the Dowager was appalled by the whole thing. And this was _before_ I saw **Pride & Prejudice & Zombies**. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/92 "2016-06-04T00:33:56Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > That was the ultimate fuck you, for sure. The whole premise of this show was to depict the breakdown of society, and they _literally_ skipped right past it. That’s what the whole first season was. Did you skip past that? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422/93 "2016-06-04T00:40:33Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > That’s what the whole first season was. Did you skip past that? I’m (we’re) talking about this: > [@CannyDan](#): > > We started with normal society, progressed into a normal society and normal people dealing with an unknown emergency, then _skipped two fucking weeks and picked up with a dysfunctional society, no civilian government, the tail end of martial law degenerated into a military with no central command and run by psychopaths (if our local commander was typical), and a full blown zombie apocalypse!_ in other words, pretty much the situation when Rick woke up, just transplanted to the west coast. Back in season 1 our band of idiots lived in a fairly normal neighborhood, then a title card says “two weeks later” and all of a sudden their normal neighborhood is transformed into a fenced-in military outpost and all the towns next to them had already been “purged” by the military. That was…abrupt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-07-shiva-open-spoilers/755422.md?page=4)