# Fear the Walking Dead: 2.12 "Pillar of Salt" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313 "2016-09-18T23:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/1 "2016-09-18T23:03:57Z")
[QUOTE=AMC] At the Colonia, Alejandro reveals his darker side; a hotel resident becomes violent and Madison springs into action. [/QUOTE] Mercedes Mason, David Alpert, & Dylan Sprayberry are on **Talking Dead**. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/2 "2016-09-19T02:01:40Z")
I’m Nick this week so I survived. It’s nice to see Mary Alice isn’t the only mother doing dangerous stupid shit because of her attachment to her child. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/3 "2016-09-19T03:20:05Z")
That Ophelia side story kinda threw me off, but looks like we know what happens to the happy little colonia. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/4 "2016-09-19T05:01:36Z")
My god, Madison is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/5 "2016-09-19T13:01:12Z")
Madison’s emotional outburst was very annoying and cliched. It was good to see Ofelia again, though! And now she’s turned “badass”! Good for her! The actress who plays her, Mercedes Mason, looked spectacular on “Talking Dead”! Gorgeous woman! ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/6 "2016-09-19T23:42:00Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Madison’s emotional outburst was very annoying and cliched. It was good to see Ofelia again, though! And now she’s turned “badass”! Good for her! > > The actress who plays her, Mercedes Mason, looked spectacular on “Talking Dead”! Gorgeous woman! She was also pretty badass (no quotes needed) and gorgeous on the Finder, the first show I remember seeing her on. Travis is still close enough to see the hotel, despite all the car travel? I thought he was way further than that. It was enough of a coincidence that the colony and the hotel shop at the same grocery store. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/7 "2016-09-20T00:32:29Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > My god, Madison is an idiot. Yeah, what’s the logic there? :dubious: How the fuck is Nick supposed to interpret a neon hotel sign coming on as a beacon from this mother? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/8 "2016-09-20T01:26:43Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Yeah, what’s the logic there? :dubious: How the fuck is Nick supposed to interpret a neon hotel sign coming on as a beacon from this mother? Parents throw logic aside where their children are concerned. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/9 "2016-09-20T03:15:39Z")
It’s all going to come crashing down in flames and zombies but our intrepid crew will miraculously find each other. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/10 "2016-09-20T16:47:45Z")
Nothing pushes me away from a show faster than “I’m a mother so fuck everyone else” plots. The only show that I stuck with that pulled that shit was GoT and that was because they resolved it the only way shit like this should be resolved. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/11 "2016-09-20T19:22:58Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > …resolved it the only way shit like this should be resolved. Which is? Just curious. I made it through this episode without my usual screaming fit about incongruities, so I guess that’s a plus. But on the other hand, this episode was almost excruciatingly boring. More so than the rest of this season’s episodes. It still features a bunch of people I cannot find it in me to like (at best!) doing things that are mostly amazingly stupid. I suppose we’re being set up for an action-packed cliff hanger, so – _yaw-w-w-n-n-nnnn_. Wake me when the fur – err, the gore flies. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/12 "2016-09-20T20:19:03Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > Which is? Just curious. Game of Thrones spoilers: She has to watch her son get murdered in front of her because all her stupid sentimental decisions completely fucked them over and they were betrayed by their allies and then she gets killed. The walking dead equivalent would be if Madison and Alicia got thrown out of the hotel into a bunch of zombies because of all the bullshit Madison just pulled. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/13 "2016-09-20T20:33:17Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Game of Thrones spoilers: > > She has to watch her son get murdered in front of her because all her stupid sentimental decisions completely fucked them over and they were betrayed by their allies and then she gets killed. The walking dead equivalent would be if Madison and Alicia got thrown out of the hotel into a bunch of zombies because of all the bullshit Madison just pulled. It gets my vote! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/14 "2016-09-20T21:42:17Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Nothing pushes me away from a show faster than “I’m a mother so fuck everyone else” plots. The only show that I stuck with that pulled that shit was GoT and that was because they resolved it the only way shit like this should be resolved. I thought it was Lucretia Borgia, although I cannot find a link, who during her castle siege, received a ransom demand to surrender or her captive children would be killed. She stood on the ramparts, hiked up her skirts and said, “Do you not think I can make more?” That’s my kind of Mom! ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/15 "2016-09-20T22:43:04Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I thought it was Lucretia Borgia, although I cannot find a link, who during her castle siege, received a ransom demand to surrender or her captive children would be killed. She stood on the ramparts, hiked up her skirts and said, “Do you not think I can make more?” > That’s my kind of Mom! You’re thinking of the legend about Caterina Sforza. I’d link and quote the wiki, but my phone’s browser is being weird. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/16 "2016-09-21T00:12:52Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > You’re thinking of the legend about Caterina Sforza. I’d link and quote the wiki, but my phone’s browser is being weird. Thank you, Sir. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/17 "2016-09-21T00:18:16Z")
How did the hotel lady know about the shopping mart? I thought she’d never left the hotel since the ZA. Her other son went there, but how did she know that? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-2-12-pillar-of-salt-open-spoilers/766313/18 "2016-09-21T00:20:04Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > You’re thinking of the legend about Caterina Sforza. I’d link and quote the wiki, but my phone’s browser is being weird. Here we go. [Do you not think I have the instrument to make more?](http://www.badassoftheweek.com/sforza.html)