# Fear the Walking Dead series premiere tonight @ 9 (open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638 "2015-08-23T21:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/221 "2015-08-30T21:36:08Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > If the morgue was set to below freezing, it would take care of the zombie problem in the hospitals. Frozen zombies can’t move. Because they are ice, solid. > > Something the original series hasn’t ever shown. Yet. Well if they were mostly desiccated, I don’t know that freezing would necessarily stop them. And how would the original series even show that? They have no electricity throughout most of it. Maybe they find a tank of liquid nitrogen? Also **carnivorousplant** is probably right about the standard temperatures of morgue lockers (I have no idea personally). ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/222 "2015-08-30T22:06:58Z")
It’s just speculation. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/223 "2015-08-31T00:03:10Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Except this isn’t starting slowly. We’ve already seen a perfectly healthy, unbitten drug dealer die from a gunshot wound and then rise as a zombie. Because everyone is already infected. Except _at that point_ we don’t know everyone is infected. When TWD group meets Jenner at the CDC, yes, everyone is infected - Jenner wanted the blood samples to confirm that, so maybe he wasn’t entirely sure. We don’t know how rapidly the initial infection occurred. I thought FTWD was supposed to be _at the start_ of the zombie apocalypse, at the very beginning. > [@EllisDee](#): > > Don’t forget the old man in the hospital. We don’t actually know if he turned or not. > [@Rigamarole](#): > > Well if they were mostly desiccated, I don’t know that freezing would necessarily stop them. And how would the original series even show that? They have no electricity throughout most of it. Maybe they find a tank of liquid nitrogen? Also **carnivorousplant** is probably right about the standard temperatures of morgue lockers (I have no idea personally). Conveniently, TWD is set in Georgia, which seldom gets very cold. Even on the rare occasions it gets down to freezing it doesn’t _stay_ there. IF freezing could stop a zombie the folks in TWD won’t know because their zombies aren’t subjected to a real winter. FTWD takes place in LA - another place that tends to stay quite warm. Would be interesting to know if the people up north get a couple months break from walkers in the winter. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/224 "2015-08-31T00:16:07Z")
> [@Link](#): > > There are two types of mortuary cold chambers: > > Positive temperature > > Bodies are kept between 2 °C (36 °F) and 4 °C (39 °F). While this is usually used for keeping bodies for up to several weeks, it does not prevent decomposition, which continues at a slower rate than at room temperature.[2] > > Negative temperature > > Bodies are kept at between −10 °C (14 °F) and −50 °C (−58 °F). Usually used at forensic institutes, particularly when a body has not been identified. At these temperatures the body is completely frozen and decomposition is very much reduced. Wikipedia[link.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgue#Types_of_cold_chambers) ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/225 "2015-08-31T13:59:28Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Our first two deaths have been associated with drugs. The first three deaths occurred in the abandoned church shooting gallery. ---
**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/226 "2015-08-31T14:56:01Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Except this isn’t starting slowly. We’ve already seen a perfectly healthy, unbitten drug dealer die from a gunshot wound and then rise as a zombie. Because everyone is already infected. That’s impossible. Thousands of people die everyday in the US. Everyone in the world would know almost immediately about these zombies if every single one of those people reanimated and started eating people. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/227 "2015-08-31T15:02:53Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The first three deaths occurred in the abandoned church shooting gallery. Which two did I miss? ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/228 "2015-08-31T16:55:57Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Which two did I miss? Gloria/zombie killed at least two people. We didn’t see her kill them, but we did see the bodies. That’s why Johnny Derp did a runner in the first place; Zombia stopped eating victim 2 and went after him. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/229 "2015-08-31T17:07:19Z")
Oh yes. Thanks, Shakester. ---
**Author:** ![MegaNazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@MegaNazz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaNazz)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/230 "2015-09-01T21:45:22Z")
I like that even smacked out, the kid had the sense to just run from his girlfriend/one-night-stand/whatever whereas his mother tried to talk down the principal zombie. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/231 "2015-09-01T22:11:21Z")
> [@MegaNazz](#): > > I like that even smacked out, the kid had the sense to just run from his girlfriend/one-night-stand/whatever whereas his mother tried to talk down the principal zombie. Nick the junkie has a long history of hauling ass when things go bad. I suspect he’ll be around for a long, long time. His mom still has a nurturing nature. She just had to help the kid with the knife enter the school :eek: , didn’t turn him over to the police :rolleyes:, and tried to help Principle Big Ears. She doesn’t panic and realized that the improper use of a fire extinguisher can cause dain bramage. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/232 "2015-09-01T22:13:03Z")
Then when she gets back to her kids, she doesn’t tell them a thing about what happened. The show is already heading down that familiar TWD nonsense, **where people just don’t tell other people what happens**. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/233 "2015-09-01T23:09:39Z")
Just as an aside, it would be nice if somebody died and _didn’t_ turn, implying that there’s some, small number of natural immunes. Such people might still be bite-vulnerable, however, as zombie saliva has _got_ to have some nasty stuff in it. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/234 "2015-09-01T23:11:49Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Then when she gets back to her kids, she doesn’t tell them a thing about what happened. The show is already heading down that familiar TWD nonsense, **where people just don’t tell other people what happens**. I’m assuming that the writers don’t want characters to know too much at this point so the characters can innocently wander into dangerous situations. Keeps the viewers on the edge of their seats. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/235 "2015-09-02T01:11:06Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Keeps the viewers on the edge of their seats. Or yelling at the TV. “Why doesn’t she tell them what happened? Why is she not warning her own kids?” Calm down honey, it’s just a TV show. “Do the writers think we are morons?” It’s the same people who make the Walking Dead. “So this one is going to be just as stupid?” Yes dear. Remember it’s like a comic book, it isn’t supposed to be real. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/236 "2015-09-02T19:19:38Z")
Fear the Walking Dead has a long way to go. The Walking Dead Kill Count - ◾Walkers - 507 (_Winner! Winner!_) ◾The Governor - 139 ◾Rick Grimes - 36 ◾The Flu - 33 ◾Daryl Dixon - 25 ◾Merle Dixon - 17 ◾Maggie Greene - 15 ◾Shane Walsh - 14 (One Indirectly Caused) ◾Michonne - 14 ◾Glenn Rhee - 11 ◾Carol Peletier - 9 ◾Andrea - 9 (Including Herself) ◾Dawn Lerner - 7 ◾Caesar Martinez - 7 ◾Sasha - 7 ◾Shumpert - 7 ◾Crowley - 7 ◾Tim - 7 ◾T-Dog - 7 ◾Carl Grimes - 6 (One Indirectly Caused) ◾Gareth - 5 (All Indirectly Caused) ◾Bob Stookey - 5 (One Indirectly Caused) ◾Beth Greene - 5 (One Indirectly Caused) ◾Edwin Jenner - 4 (Including Himself) ◾Tyreese - 4 ◾Terminus Butcher - 4 ◾Terminus Butcher 2 - 4 ◾Hershel Greene - 3 ◾Patrick - 3 ◾Joan - 3 (Including Herself) ◾Vi - 3 (Including Itself) ◾Lizzie Samuels - 3 ◾Andrew - 2 (Caused) ◾Lam Kendal - 2 ◾Leon Basset - 2 ◾Steven Edwards - 2 ◾Pete - 1 ◾Wolf 1 - 1 ◾Gabriel Stokes - 1 ◾Nicholas - 1 ◾Aiden Monroe - 1 ◾Noah - 1 ◾Abraham Ford - 1 ◾Joe - 1 ◾Lilly Chambler - 1 ◾Julio - 1 ◾Noris - 1 ◾Chloe - 1 ◾David -1 ◾Karen - 1 ◾Clara - 1 (Including Herself) ◾Milton Mamet - 1 ◾Woodbury Army - 1 ◾Oscar - 1 ◾Gargulio - 1 ◾Judith Grimes (One Indirectly Caused) - 1 ◾Tomas - 1 ◾Jacqui - 1 (Including Herself) ◾Morales - 1 > **[List of Deaths (TV Series)](https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Deaths_(TV_Series))** > > List of Deaths (Comic Series) - For the list of deaths that have occurred in the Comic Series. List of Deaths (Fear) - For the list of deaths that have occurred in Fear the Walking Dead. List of Deaths (World Beyond) - For the list of deaths that... Plus 2 horses, 4 dogs, and 1 pig. But FTWD has all of LA to feast on. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/237 "2015-09-02T19:53:25Z")
> [@GovernmentMan](#): > > That’s impossible. Thousands of people die everyday in the US. Everyone in the world would know almost immediately about these zombies if every single one of those people reanimated and started eating people. Sure, EMTs and hospitals would know because of normal deaths by accident or age but would the general public? The government knows, they are trying to hide it. I still say at this point the characters should not know the zombies are dead, just crazed and sick. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/238 "2015-09-03T00:02:06Z")
Oh Hell, surely Sasha has more than that. The one angry effort with the sniper rifle must be a dozen. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/239 "2015-09-03T01:32:44Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Oh Hell, surely Sasha has more than that. The one angry effort with the sniper rifle must be a dozen. :dubious: That’s people killed, not zombies. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/240 "2015-09-03T10:55:53Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > That’s people killed, not zombies. Thanks. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638.md?page=13)