# Fear the Walking Dead series premiere tonight @ 9 (open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638 "2015-08-23T21:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/121 "2015-08-25T23:16:39Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > He tried to bite her, but she definitely was not bit. Not only not bleeding but she was wearing a thick long-sleeved coat, that clearly was not torn at all in a subsequent shot when they run up to take a look at him. Agreed; we’re just not used to seeing female characters dress practically for the zombie apocalypse in the TWD verse. > [@EllisDee](#): > > I get the impression that once the zombie curse activated, it didn’t wait for people to die naturally or get bitten by the ones who did. It appears to have actively killed a bunch of people, presenting as flu-like symptoms. We know everyone has “it” but it lies dormant until they die. Maybe not everyone gets the “lies dormant” part?.. Good point; any who’s immune system couldn’t handle the dormant pathogen would be dead by the time Rick woke up. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > One thing about civilization ending. The weak don’t survive, and there sure as hell ain’t no drug dealers, or a steady flow of product. True, but I would not trust Nick to go on pharmacy runs. > [@StGermain](#): > > As for the school bus, I think the principal said something about a lot of people keeping their kids home from school because of the “flu” pandemic, and probably because of the viral video. I don’t think all those students have been infected, I think at this point a lot of people are starting to hole up in their homes waiting for _whatever_ to pass. > > StG _This_ a lot of families are keeping their kids home, and more than a few have probably started to leave the city. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > I actually hope the show is a huge hit, and years from now the two groups from the two shows meet. > > How awesome would that be? > > And Rick slaughters ever last one of them, because reasons. I doubt we’ll ever see the gangs meet up, and the only crossover character what would really make sense would be Edwin Jenner. [QUOTE=Sam Lowry] Apparently, on the “story sync” thing that AMC does, there were some extras. One of them was a WHO protocol document for handling the dead. So apparently the old guy did die and they were following the WHO protocol for what to do with the deceased… [/QUOTE] Thanks’ Sam. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/122 "2015-08-25T23:18:03Z")
As someone else pointed out in the other thread once the power goes out the battery backups for the water pumps have about 24-48 hours before they die(at least that was how it went in the major us city i lived through a hurricane in). Once that happens its over for LA, the city will become an unsurvivable deathtrap unless you have access to an aquaduct or something. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/123 "2015-08-25T23:27:18Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Agreed, but it’s written by comic a book writer, so that’s probably asking too much. Story and plausibility is a distant second to looking “cool.” Witness Michonne’s pets. Her pets were an excellent idea, they could not bite or scratch her the most they could do is rub their faces on her. They need a whole bunch of neutered pet walkers, hell strap backpacks on those suckers and the walkers provide free labor! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/124 "2015-08-25T23:38:06Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Hey, it’s a universally-evocative term. All _right_, already! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/125 "2015-08-25T23:55:02Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I’ve been predicting that for several seasons. It would be awesome if ten years from now, TWD (and spin offs) are still going strong. If we’re talking predictions, then: I predict that this first spin-off will have disappointing ratings. I base that on various interviews with the showrunners, ballyhooing “a completely different look for the new show’s walkers.” This reveals that those showrunners have failed to understand a fundamental reason for the success of the original. We shall see… ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/126 "2015-08-26T00:12:52Z")
> [@MegaNazz](#): > > A hardcore junkie can die if they quit cold turkey. A heroin junkie? No, they won’t. Can we end that myth, please? Sure, the junkie might fell really crappy, but unless they have some other major, major health thing going on it won’t kill them. Now, going cold turkey off a full-blown _alcohol_ addiction, or benzos, that can put you at risk of death. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/127 "2015-08-26T00:18:41Z")
Late to the party, since I have to get up at 0420 Mondays and don’t can’t watch the show until evening after the thread is already pages long. So I’ll just say: Nobody leaves his car (or truck, in this case) unlocked in L.A. Especially not where there are a lot of drug users. (Also, the truck does not appear to be something even an underpaid teacher would driver there.) ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/128 "2015-08-26T00:52:28Z")
I don’t feel like multi-quoting, so I’m just going to address some things people said without it. There is no indication that the virus kills people. It has never been shown or talked about in either show. There is no way that’s the way it will be depicted. People are going to die violently, whether from zombies or living people, or they will die from other causes like natural (the old guy in the hospital), accidents, and suicide. They expect us to suspend disbelief regarding a bunch of shambling brainless things being able to multiply fast enough to overwhelm civilization. Someone complained schools would be closed, but they were. Sure, it possibly happened slower than it would in real life, but it sort of has to be that way considering the premise of the show. It’s not _World War Z_. This stuff has to last a whole television season, not a couple hours. I hope one of the family members dies, because otherwise it will be more unbelievable than usual. The junkie son would be the obvious choice, or it could be Travis’ son that he talked to on the phone. I am guessing neither Travis nor Madison (Maddie?) will die unless it’s in the season finale. Unfortunately for those that want to get into the heart of the zombie apocalypse, judging by the first episode it seems clear that they’re going to extend the outbreak to the whole season. I don’t think we’ll really hit, “Oh, shit, this is the apocalypse and society is completely gone,” (like the first episode of TWD) until the end of the season. I’m betting some substantial number of characters will still think they have a real chance to stop the outbreak right up until the last episode. That’s basically the point of choosing the time of outbreak to start the story, isn’t it? The ratings were off the charts for this episode, but we will see as the season progresses. I wasn’t particularly impressed, but the same applies for TWD. I mainly watch it for the few good moments and episodes plus so I can get mad that lazy writers have such a hit on their hands. (Ok, TWD is more entertaining than a lot of shows but I still think the writing is way too lazy and leads to silly situations that make suspending disbelief an effort.) ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/129 "2015-08-26T03:19:34Z")
I enjoyed it though I couldn’t give a crap less about the teen and her beau. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/130 "2015-08-26T16:12:05Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > In one of the reviews I read, I thought I read that stepdad was supposed to Hispanic, but the guy is actually Maori and he convinced the producers to have him play his actual ethnicity. But I didn’t hear any NZ accent, unless he’s like the only guy of Maori ancestry born in the US. No, he’s a born-and-bred Kiwi. I knew from the beginning that he’s a Maori, because i remember him from his New Zealand days, before he made it in the United States. Possibly his most memorable early role was as Uncle Bully in the amazing-but-hard-to-watch Kiwi film _Once Were Warriors_. He was also in _Whale Rider_. He’s had an interesting and also somewhat predictable career in the US. He has benefited from the fact that he has a sort of generic brown-skinned look about him, without looking too much like any particular ethnicity, which allows him to play a variety of ethnic roles. I’ve seen him play Latinos and Middle-Easterners a bunch of times. I certainly didn’t notice a Kiwi accent on my first watching of the show, and i’ve just gone back to my recording and don’t really hear it now that i’m listening for it. I just listened to a few of his longer scenes, including his classroom lesson on Jack London, and his accent sounds pretty much like standard TV American to me. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/131 "2015-08-26T16:14:09Z")
Andrew Lincoln doesn’t have an English accent as well. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/132 "2015-08-26T16:21:02Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Andrew Lincoln doesn’t have an English accent as well. I am glad to hear that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/133 "2015-08-26T16:22:50Z")
On the show only! ---
**Author:** ![MegaNazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@MegaNazz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaNazz)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/134 "2015-08-26T16:33:17Z")
You’re talking out your ass, Broomstick. The body becomes physically dependent on it if you do it with enough frequency. If you hit that point and you don’t ween off, your body can go into shock and die from the withdrawal. It’s happened, more than once, to people I knew personally…not friends of mine but just idiots that got addicted and then got pulled out of it through circumstance only to end up passed out and dead while trying to eat a hamburger. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/135 "2015-08-26T16:43:39Z")
> [@MegaNazz](#): > > You’re talking out your ass, Broomstick. The body becomes physically dependent on it if you do it with enough frequency. If you hit that point and you don’t ween off, your body can go into shock and die from the withdrawal. It’s happened, more than once, to people I knew personally…not friends of mine but just idiots that got addicted and then got pulled out of it through circumstance only to end up passed out and dead while trying to eat a hamburger. Broomstick is correct. Death caused by heroin withdrawal is very rare. From U.S. National Institutes of Health: [“opioid withdrawal reactions are very uncomfortable but are not life-threatening.”](https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000949.htm) Even a treatment center that is trying to sell their recovery services says its rare: ["death from heroin addiction is very unlikely](http://www.patmoorefoundation.com/can-heroin-withdrawal-kill-you), but it can occur as a result of seizures or respiratory complications. Withdrawal arising from high heroin doses can cause seizures. Having a seizure increases the risk of respiratory failure which can consequently cause death." ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/136 "2015-08-26T16:48:52Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > A few months ago when this was shot (in LA), that was accurate to our LA prices. If memory serves that gas station was a lot of CG (covering the actual brand of gas and advertisements) but that price was right. Nah, that’s actually a real gas station that I found on GMaps. See post #91. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/137 "2015-08-26T17:03:32Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > The only way the outbreak working like this makes any sense is actually if the government is picking up zombies and keeping it hush hush. Otherwise…WTF? Zombies don’t hide and don’t take breaks. Junkie zombie girl in the church either hangs out in the church because she can’t find a way out or she gets out and just keeps killing people. I figure the cops in the area will assume (unless they get up close) that the zombies shuffling along are just junkies. Also, is it me, or are the new zombies much faster than the old WD zombies? Do southern zombies move slower than LA zombies? ---
**Author:** ![MegaNazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@MegaNazz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaNazz)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/138 "2015-08-26T17:03:46Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Broomstick is correct. Death caused by heroin withdrawal is very rare. > > From U.S. National Institutes of Health: [“opioid withdrawal reactions are very uncomfortable but are not life-threatening.”](https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000949.htm) > > Even a treatment center that is trying to sell their recovery services says its rare: ["death from heroin addiction is very unlikely](http://www.patmoorefoundation.com/can-heroin-withdrawal-kill-you), but it can occur as a result of seizures or respiratory complications. Withdrawal arising from high heroin doses can cause seizures. Having a seizure increases the risk of respiratory failure which can consequently cause death." Troutman, you actually disproved him because he was saying death from heroin withdrawal is a myth. Like I said, I’ve known more than one person who has died from just quitting and not using something like methadone to get off of it. It’s messed up because you think they’re just detoxing or whatever and then they’re dead. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/139 "2015-08-26T17:23:00Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Also, is it me, or are the new zombies much faster than the old WD zombies? They haven’t been rotting away for several months. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638/140 "2015-08-26T17:43:13Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Agreed, but it’s written by comic a book writer, so that’s probably asking too much. Story and plausibility is a distant second to looking “cool.” Witness Michonne’s pets. …lame comment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fear-the-walking-dead-series-premiere-tonight-9-open-spoilers/728638.md?page=8)