# Fed up with Teacher Hate and Disrespect in this Country **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 30, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653 "2011-08-30T18:03:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/161 "2011-08-31T02:16:20Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Other than starting a few days earlier than the students and cleaning up their classroom after the last day of school, they get every one of those days off that the kids get, and you know it. (Not counting teacher work days.) Last year, most schools started 10-14 days earlier than the kids. **Teacher work days** count as well - what do you mean, ‘not counting teacher work days’? Of course you count teacher work days as work days! > [@](#): > > I’ll work more mandatory unpaid weekends in one calendar year than an average teacher will in ten. I will also not be able to use those hours to count toward pay increases. Uh, neither do teachers. > [@](#): > > I know you don’t want to accept it, but I do in fact know all about the life of a teacher. In addition to my (ex) wife, my sister and her husband are teachers. They just got back to work after spending the summer in a rented cabin on a lake in Maine. And I spent the 4th of July in Big Sur. So? > [@](#): > > BTW, my ex was Teacher of the Year in Colorado several years ago. In DPS? Doubtful. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/162 "2011-08-31T02:16:33Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Is there some way we could reward parents and students for academic success? > > We “reward” teachers by giving them time off, tenure, salary, etc, if they choose to stick to the profession. > > We “reward” students by giving academic scholarships, insurance discounts for good grades, knowledge that will be useful in life, etc. > > Maybe we could offer tax incentives for parents of students who get good grades. Or hell, maybe we could actually cut checks to students and parents who make good grades. Money is motivation in this world, sadly. I don’t know of any good answer, but I really feel that the solution to our education problem is getting students and parents to accept more responsibility, and to support teachers more. Hoo, boy. I guarantee that the only parents pushier, whinier, more obnoxious, and determined to raise Junior’s grades by calling the teacher at home and bitching than the ones we have now are ones who see an immediate financial incentive to do so. That sort of a plan would trigger _massive_ grade inflation. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/163 "2011-08-31T02:22:56Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Last year, most schools started 10-14 days earlier than the kids. **Teacher work days** count as well - what do you mean, ‘not counting teacher work days’? Of course you count teacher work days as work days! Our moron state legislators decided that workdays were a waste of taxpayer money, and in a feeble attempt to smokescreen their slashes to education, increased the school year by removing 5 workdays and turning them into instructional days. Thanks, guys! Because on workdays, we all sat around eating Cheetos and watching America’s Got Talent. We didn’t plan units and lessons, catch up on organizing our papers, analyze student performance, create new materials, do report cards, and did I mention planning units and lessons? We’ll DEFINITELY be better teachers without all of that work! Or is the assumption that we’ll just tack those 40 hours of work onto our already full workweeks? There’s plenty of evidence about what works to get good education: -Recruit academically-strong people to be teachers. -Train them thoroughly and rigorously. -Pay them well. -Give them plenty of time to plan. I advocate doing these things. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/164 "2011-08-31T02:28:56Z")
Hey LHOD, could you bottle those sweet, sweet bitch tears for me? I’m getting tired of syrup on my waffles. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/165 "2011-08-31T02:30:53Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Hey LHOD, could you bottle those sweet, sweet bitch tears for me? I’m getting tired of syrup on my waffles. Thanks. Man, what took you so long? Maybe too much syrup on your waffles is making you loggy. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/166 "2011-08-31T02:32:34Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I want to be a professional, dammit, and I want to have the high expectations and high rewards of a professional. Then be a professional. You chose to be a teacher despite the low rewards. Don’t bitch about your decision now (or, if you choose to, at least bottle your sweet, sweet bitch tears for me, per my request above). ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/167 "2011-08-31T02:37:53Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You are such a clown. > > [Cite.](http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/26/995141/see-how-well-your-school-district.html#ixzz1WXgqTF8H) > > Regards. > Shodan After teaching for 22 years in Santa Barbara County (the highest on your link), I’d certainly hope to be making more than $100k. If you think teaching is such a cushy profession, one has to wonder why you haven’t switched jobs. Just think of all that sweet, sweet tenure you could have! Just think of those short workdays and those long summer vacations, all on the public teat! Hell, you’re just throwing your life away! Why not march on down to the local school tomorrow and demand some of that cheese? ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/168 "2011-08-31T02:38:56Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Last year, most schools started 10-14 days earlier than the kids. **Teacher work days** count as well - what do you mean, ‘not counting teacher work days’? Of course you count teacher work days as work days! > Uh, neither do teachers. > > And I spent the 4th of July in Big Sur. So? > In DPS? Doubtful. Try reading for comprehension. The teachers get all the same days off that the kids get for Thanksgiving, Winter Break, and Spring Break. They have to work on the teacher work days while the kids have off, so I explicitly excluded those days from the calculation. Continuing Ed credits don’t count toward step increases anymore? News to me. No, not DPS. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/169 "2011-08-31T02:40:31Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Man, what took you so long? Maybe too much syrup on your waffles is making you loggy. He had to do a search on me to see where else I was posting. Dude lurves me. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/170 "2011-08-31T02:40:37Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > After teaching for 22 years in Santa Barbara County (the highest on your link), I’d certainly hope to be making more than $100k. Yeah . . . I make that each year sometime in March. Here pretty soon I’ll make that in January. Maybe teachers who want to make more money should, I dunno, do something else where they could make more money (I know, crazy idea). ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/171 "2011-08-31T02:41:47Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > He had to do a search on me to see where else I was posting. Dude lurves me. Nope, just lurve the bitch tears. You got any more for me? Maybe a parent was mean or something? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/172 "2011-08-31T02:42:04Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yeah . . . I make that each year sometime in March. Here pretty soon I’ll make that in January. Do you ever get tired of masturbating publicly to the declarations of how much money you make? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/173 "2011-08-31T02:47:40Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Do you ever get tired of masturbating publicly to the declarations of how much money you make? Well, sure looks like a big no on that one, don’t you think? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/174 "2011-08-31T02:49:28Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yeah . . . I make that each year sometime in March. Here pretty soon I’ll make that in January. And that’s the only reason your wife stays with you. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/175 "2011-08-31T02:49:34Z")
I guess you can’t buy class, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/176 "2011-08-31T02:50:54Z")
🙂 Thanks guys. Got any more? Surely I’m a bad parent, too, right? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/177 "2011-08-31T02:51:40Z")
Who gives a shit? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/178 "2011-08-31T02:53:19Z")
You apparently did just 9 minutes ago. ETA: and then again 2 minutes ago. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/179 "2011-08-31T02:57:00Z")
The bigger the professed income, the smaller the penis (and the bigger the dick). This is a Universal Law. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653/180 "2011-08-31T02:57:02Z")
About your parenting skills? Or your irrepressible urge to be as much of a dickhead as you can whenever you get the opportunity? Nobody’s opinion on this place matters to you, yet somehow you’ve been allowed to troll this board for the entirety of your tenure here. I can only hope the anonymity of the internet has served to let the disgusting parts of your personality out so nobody in real life has to deal with what a small man you really are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fed-up-with-teacher-hate-and-disrespect-in-this-country/594653.md?page=10)