# Feds bust Josh Duggar

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [April 29, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076 "2021-04-29T23:17:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/81 "2021-12-10T22:46:53Z")

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Yep, that’s some serious shade being thrown.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/82 "2021-12-10T23:55:36Z")

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And now Jinger’s statement: [She, too was a victim of Josh’s.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/rdjahr/jingers_statement/)

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/83 "2021-12-11T00:00:49Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> “we respect the jury’s verdict, and we intend to appeal”
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> Then no you didn’t.

The jury decides on the evidence as presented, it is not their job to throw out evidence that the judge has allowed. So they can respect the jury’s verdict, while not respecting the judge’s ruling that allowed evidence that (they say) should not have been allowed.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/84 "2021-12-11T00:28:43Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> The jury decides on the evidence as presented, it is not their job to throw out evidence that the judge has allowed. So they can respect the jury’s verdict, while not respecting the judge’s ruling that allowed evidence that (they say) should not have been allowed. -

“So even though we know he’s a sexual predator, we’ll do everything we can to make sure he’s free to offend again.”

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/85 "2021-12-11T00:47:27Z")

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I’m really not clear whose view you are personifying, the family? the jury?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/86 "2021-12-11T00:48:14Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I’m really not clear whose view you are personifying, the family? the jury? -

The family.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/87 "2021-12-11T11:14:01Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> So even though we know he’s a sexual predator, we’ll do everything we can to make sure he’s free to offend again.”

It’s all a matter of perspective:  
“So even though we know he’s a sexual predator, we’ll do everything we can to make sure that he is afforded the due process he is entitled to under our legal system.”

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/88 "2021-12-11T15:44:16Z")

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Jenna Duggar now charged with endangering a minor (unrelated case).

I guess with that many kids it was hard for Jim Bob to keep them all from being dirtbags.

> **[Jana Duggar, Josh Duggar's sister, charged with endangering minor](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jana-duggar-josh-duggars-sister-charged-endangering-minor-rcna8434)**
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> Jana Duggar, 31, has pleaded not guilty. There is no evidence that the allegations against Jana Duggar are related to her brother Josh Duggar's case.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/89 "2021-12-11T19:22:24Z")

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Oh man, that DuggarsSnark subreddit is a gold mine:

[![](https://i.redd.it/0ni5z9y7px481.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/0ni5z9y7px481.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/90 "2021-12-11T19:35:02Z")

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Love Betty Bowers!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/91 "2021-12-11T19:56:45Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> > [@running\_coach](#):
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> > So even though we know he’s a sexual predator, we’ll do everything we can to make sure he’s free to offend again.”
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> It’s all a matter of perspective:  
> “So even though we know he’s a sexual predator, we’ll do everything we can to make sure that he is afforded the due process he is entitled to under our legal system.”

That still only makes sense to me if you think the outcome may have been improper. There’s not much use in pouring your limited resources (time, money, etc.) into something if the conclusion is expected to be the same.

Sure, Duggar has a right to appeal. I don’t begrudge him using it. But, given that a sexual predator, I’m not going to put any effort into anything that might in any way make it easier for him to prey on children again. And if someone agrees with me that he’s a sexual predator, I’m going to look askance at them not having that view.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/92 "2021-12-11T20:28:33Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Sure, Duggar has a right to appeal. I don’t begrudge him using it.

Nor do I. And, like you, I think he’s guilty and any appeal will not change that view. He deserves the consequence of his actions, but I am certainly not going to be bothered that he’s seeking to confirm that he received his due process and that his rights were honored.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/93 "2021-12-11T20:49:39Z")

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They also sent something like $19,000 to The Children’s Safety Center of Washington County.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/94 "2021-12-11T20:53:07Z")

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Reddit takes a lot of shit but some of those communities are doing some amazing work, like the Gamestop subs raising a quarter of a million dollars for Dian Fossey’s gorilla foundation and the same group now raising a shit ton for Toys For Tots. Internet activism is taking off in a big way.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/95 "2021-12-12T19:45:41Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Jenna Duggar now charged with endangering a minor (unrelated case).
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> I guess with that many kids it was hard for Jim Bob to keep them all from being dirtbags.

It’s a misdemeanor and must not be very serious. Whatever it was is apparently sealed by the case settlement.

It’s certainly nothing like Josh’s pedo case.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/96 "2021-12-12T20:14:42Z")

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Good lord, just because it’s a misdemeanor doesn’t mean it’s “not very serious.”

[From the Arkansas State code:](https://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/2017/title-5/subtitle-3/chapter-27/subchapter-2/section-5-27-206/)

- (1) A person commits the offense of endangering the welfare of a minor in the second degree if he or she knowingly engages in conduct creating a substantial risk of serious harm to the physical or mental welfare of another person known by the person to be a minor.

- (2) As used in this section, “serious harm to the physical or mental welfare” means physical or mental injury that causes:

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/97 "2021-12-12T20:38:28Z")

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So in theory could having kids in the same house as Josh be considered child endangerment?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/98 "2021-12-12T23:28:28Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> So in theory could having kids in the same house as Josh be considered child endangerment

Rumor has it she fell asleep while watching her siblings and nephews and nieces and one was found wandering.

There is also speculation that she got caught driving with kids not in car seats.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/99 "2021-12-14T20:13:48Z")

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Some old, some new stuff here:

> **[Duggar family speaks out after Josh Duggar's guilty verdict: 'Nobody is above...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2021/12/10/duggars-react-josh-duggar-convicted-child-porn-charges/6459915001/)**
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> Members of the Duggar family are reacting after a jury found former reality TV star Josh Duggar was found guilty on child pornography charges.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-bust-josh-duggar/941076/100 "2021-12-15T20:14:20Z")

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A political setback:

> **[Fulfer beats Jim Bob Duggar in Arkansas state senate primary](https://www.aol.com/news/jim-bob-duggar-among-candidates-045640668-150905231.html)**
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> A former city councilor won the Republican nomination for an Arkansas state senate seat in a special primary election, beating out candidates that included “19 Kids and Counting” father Jim Bob Duggar. The poll results from Tuesday's election show...

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