# Feeding your kid with hand is a crime in Norway?!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [January 19, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986 "2012-01-19T07:47:29Z")
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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/121 "2012-12-05T03:17:47Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Taking away kids be damned.
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> Norway should be in the gun sights for refusing to sell take away beer at supermarkets on Sunday. And only allowing low strength beer sales after 8 pm other nights (Take away).
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> Let’s cut to the chase.

You’d REALLY hate [Pennsylvania](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Pennsylvania) then. You can only buy liquor at state run stores, and beer outlets. No beer in grocery stores at all. Hell, you have to be 18 to drink _non-alcoholic beer_.

Now THAT’S a crime worth caning.

Yeah, there are a LOT of complaints about it. (It was cool to visit the local beer outlet when I was a kid, though. They had lollipops behind the counter.)

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### Author: ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/122 "2012-12-05T03:23:16Z")

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Oh, we don’t have sales of alcohol in supermarkets here. Have to go to licensed outlets. However, they do operate 7 days a week and pubs also have bottle shops.

No lollipops though. Well, they might- I’ve never looked 🙂

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### Author: ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/123 "2012-12-05T03:34:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> You’d REALLY hate [Pennsylvania](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Pennsylvania) then. You can only buy liquor at state run stores, and beer outlets. No beer in grocery stores at all.

😕 Wegman’s in Collegeville, at least, has a beer section. But they also have an in-store pub, so maybe that’s why. They briefly had a weird vending machine for a limited selection of wines, too, but that disappeared fast. I think because of problems with the machine, though.

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### Author: ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/124 "2012-12-05T06:47:28Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Oh, we don’t have sales of alcohol in supermarkets here. Have to go to licensed outlets. However, they do operate 7 days a week and pubs also have bottle shops.
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> No lollipops though. Well, they might- I’ve never looked 🙂

I live in a country where I can buy Johnny Walker Black at the downstairs 7-Eleven. Off the shelf. At 2 AM, if I’m so inclined.

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### Author: ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2012, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/125 "2012-12-05T08:08:53Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> I live in a country where I can buy Johnny Walker Black at the downstairs 7-Eleven. Off the shelf. At 2 AM, if I’m so inclined.

And mix it straight into your Slurpee.

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### Author: ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/127 "2013-11-29T19:17:39Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Protip: Your experience is not the same as everyone else’s experience.

GrandMaster with Cluster tip: she’s not wrong, either. If parents of younger kids don’t have the late evening or early morning to themselves in bed, the boink factor plummets to zero. We’re not talking about a no-kids couple of any age or college students, but a pair of people who have to fit about 28 hours into every day, and taking away that last bit of private 1-on-1 time does not mean nooners or quickies while junior is in the bathtub.

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### Author: ![Neverending\_Elbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e274bd/32.png) [@Neverending\_Elbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neverending_Elbow)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/128 "2013-11-29T21:27:22Z")

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> [@mydeltapi](#):
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> Also native Norwegians fear badly the SWF system in Norway. They use children as trade objects out of greed for money. If you deviate from some strict and unnatural normality scheme or culturally, your children are really in danger. This system snaps children to the full extent of their capacity. If you give them the double capacity, they will snap twice as many children as now.Generally I worn families with children moving to Norway or even visiting Norway as tourists.

I am not sure I understand most if any of this.

How are children used as trade objects out of greed for money?

How does one snap children? And what is the average snapping capacity of a child?

Thread resurrections are weird…

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### Author: ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/129 "2013-11-30T00:00:07Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> Sleeping in the same bed is considered a safety issue, not a paedophilia issue. There have been a lot of cases (intentional or not is debatable) of parents accidentally (or not) rolling over and smothering children in their sleep.
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> ETA: I personally don’t think it should be outlawed, but that’s why it’s taboo here, at least initially.

I see PSA’s against this several times a day on TV. Makes me miss “I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU”

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### Author: ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/130 "2013-11-30T03:50:53Z")

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> [@Neverending\_Elbow](#):
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> I am not sure I understand most if any of this.
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> How are children used as trade objects out of greed for money?
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> How does one snap children? And what is the average snapping capacity of a child?
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> Thread resurrections are weird…

I think he means social workers have a financial incentive to take children into care – though I can’t tell how this is supposed to happen. And I think the snapping is snapping up – they take away as many children as they have the capacity for.

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### Author: ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/131 "2013-11-30T16:34:04Z")

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> [@mydeltapi](#):
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> Also native Norwegians fear badly the SWF system in Norway. They use children as trade objects out of greed for money. If you deviate from some strict and unnatural normality scheme or culturally, your children are really in danger. This system snaps children to the full extent of their capacity. If you give them the double capacity, they will snap twice as many children as now.Generally I worn families with children moving to Norway or even visiting Norway as tourists.
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> To kiss your child or give it a good embrace is enough in this country to be suspected of child sexual abuse and have your children taken away from you. They have a myriad other normality paragraphs too, or just invent some new case by case as they feel conveniant.
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> The best way a foreigners can help both themselves and Norwegian Citizens against this system is total and full boicott of all Norwegian companies and products, and by not settling in Norway or go to Norway as tourists.
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> Regards Knut Holt

None of this is true.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/132 "2013-11-30T16:51:50Z")

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> [@mydeltapi](#):
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> Also native Norwegians fear badly the SWF system in Norway. They use children as trade objects out of greed for money. If you deviate from some strict and unnatural normality scheme or culturally, your children are really in danger. This system snaps children to the full extent of their capacity. If you give them the double capacity, they will snap twice as many children as now.Generally I worn families with children moving to Norway or even visiting Norway as tourists.
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> To kiss your child or give it a good embrace is enough in this country to be suspected of child sexual abuse and have your children taken away from you. They have a myriad other normality paragraphs too, or just invent some new case by case as they feel conveniant.
> 
> The best way a foreigners can help both themselves and Norwegian Citizens against this system is total and full boicott of all Norwegian companies and products, and by not settling in Norway or go to Norway as tourists.
> 
> Regards Knut Holt

Would you be the same “Knut Holt” that wrote [this gem](http://ezinearticles.com/?Sneaky-Transformations-of-Boys-to-Girls---A-New-Kind-of-Child-Abuse?&id=8013717)?

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### Author: ![iftheresaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@iftheresaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iftheresaway)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/133 "2013-11-30T19:38:08Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> GrandMaster with Cluster tip: she’s not wrong, either. If parents of younger kids don’t have the late evening or early morning to themselves in bed, the boink factor plummets to zero. We’re not talking about a no-kids couple of any age or college students, but a pair of people who have to fit about 28 hours into every day, and taking away that last bit of private 1-on-1 time does not mean nooners or quickies while junior is in the bathtub.

If you can’t figure out how to have sex anywhere but “in bed, immediately before or after sleeping”, then I don’t think Junior is to blame for your lack of sex. My 16-month-old has always slept in my bad, but fortunately my husband and I know about the existence of things like couches and kitchen floors and guest bedrooms, and occasionally the grandparents take the baby overnight. If someone doesn’t want or feel comfortable with co-sleeping, that’s fine, but pretending they’ll never be able to have sex again is just ridiculous.

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### Author: ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/134 "2013-11-30T19:43:39Z")

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> [@czarcasm](#):
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> would you be the same “knut holt” that wrote [this gem](http://ezinearticles.com/?sneaky-transformations-of-boys-to-girls---a-new-kind-of-child-abuse?&id=8013717)?

tin foil hat alert

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/135 "2013-11-30T20:29:06Z")

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I don’t think [this guy’s](http://ezinearticles.com/?Urine-Therapy---Urine-Used-to-Treat-Diseases&id=7418039) kids are going to want to kiss him good night any time soon.

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### Author: ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/136 "2013-11-30T22:46:38Z")

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I thought I was losing my mind–I could have sworn I read an identical post on a different message board yesterday.

Not losing my mind: [DC Urban Mom](http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/214999.page). Except he bumped that thread from Feb. 2012.

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> tin foil hat alert

That “k” in his first name appears to be a typo.

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### Author: ![Neverending\_Elbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e274bd/32.png) [@Neverending\_Elbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neverending_Elbow)
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> [@Miller](#):
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> That “k” in his first name appears to be a typo.

No, it’s just silent.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/140 "2013-12-02T13:17:25Z")

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> [@mydeltapi](#):
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> The Norwegian Child Protective System - An Authoritarian and Greedy Organization…

Are you here to talk _with_ us, or _at_ us?

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
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I believe we have ourselves a new Lekatt. That didn’t take long at all. :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feeding-your-kid-with-hand-is-a-crime-in-norway/609986/142 "2013-12-02T14:56:59Z")

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Except I’m banning him before he can build up a head of steam. I let the first post go, but then he linked to an external site as a sig in his second post, making him a spammer.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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